Infidelity Support Group
Any relationship in which one partner engages willfully in sexual relations with another outside of the partnership is considered to have experienced infidelity. This breach of trust is often traumatizing for the faithful partner as well as the relationship, and support is often needed to heal emotionally and to decide whether or not the relationship should continue after...
hairymick
G'day guys,
I posted a while ago that I suspected my wife of 14 years was having an affair on me. All the usual red flags were there - all of them, but as yet, I still have no real proof that the affair actually existed. This has been going on for more than three years now,
Long story short,
It came to a head a couple of months ago, Accusations were thrown and heated words were exchanged after I caught her flirting with, and making doe eyes at a male co-worker. (he was and still is my prime suspect)
Shortly before this, and to his credit, this bloke approached me and asked me if I suspected him of having an affair with my wife. "because he felf a "vibe" coming from me (damn straight he did) and that he had been hearing rumours. - bullshit, I had never mentioned my suspicions to anyone there. We all work at the same place though I am in a different section.
I told him staight out of my suspicions and that if i ever got proof, two things would happen.
1. I would bury him.
2. I would tell his wife
not necissarily in that ordr.
This prick is a male slut, has cheated on his wife several times that I know of and even left her and their little child once for another woman. He is constantly hitting on all and sundry females at our work. Pretty much anyone with a pulse. Most of the women I talk to can't stand him because he is such a sleazy basterd. they all tell a similar story of his hitting on them. -You get the idea.
When I told him my intentions, the colour drained from his face and i think I saw real fear there.
When my wife and I had our strong words, she told me she was leaving. that it was all over etc etc and for once, my spine grew some bones and I said fine. Advised her of the reality that she had better see a lawyer because I allready had and that we should start packing the following day. We would both have to move out of our house, get the valuers in and start negotiations re a settlement because I was damned if I was just going to just walk away and give her anything without a fight.
For the first time in all our troubles, she actually broke down and cried and I left her to it..
The following morning, i was sitting by the computor when she came out and for the first time in three years, she initiated a sign of affection. (a little thing) She touched me affectionately on the arm as she walked past on her way to the bathroom. All my hard arse resolve melted and like the lap dog that I am, I also melted.
Shortly after this, things started to improve a bit and a couple of weeks later we went away on vacation. We did the whole romantic thing, staying is real nice places, rain forest cabins with spar and log fire etc etc, drank lots of wine, lots of eye contact, talked nicely a lot and even made love often and like we used to. It was bloody great! and I thought we were back on track.
At the end of the holliday, we returned home to work and reality and for a couple of weeks or so, things continued as they were while we were away. bloody brilliant! Lots of affection and cuddles, Lots of eye contact and plenty of great sex. I am a simple man - what can I say?
Over the past couple of weeks or so, I have noticed my wife gradually but surely pulling away from me. Less and less eye contact, finding excuses not to make love and rejecting affection and fearing that she was reverting back to her old nasty self, 4 nights ago I asked her if she was pulling away from me again. What was wrong? she said she didn't know.
Three nights ago, while I was cookng dinner, she came out and it was clear something was troubling her. she came into the kitchen and burst into tears and told me she just "can't live the lie anymore" that she no longer loves me that way that she used to or the way that I want her to. that I am a "good man" and that I deserve better.
This bloody gutted me and it seems clear to me that she is looking for an easy way out. She has broken my heart again, Just when the trust was starting to build and I thought we were making progress. i can't help myself from analysing everything she says and does looking for things to be suspicious of - again.
We had a calm, deep and meaningful discussion that night when all the time, I just wanted to smack her in the mouth. I have never struck a woman in my life and view any man who does with contempt and as being a coward.
The guts of the matter is that we are both in our 50's, though my wife looks much younger than her years (bitch) :)) and is still a VERY attractive woman. She is the most desireable woman I have ever met.. We are both comfortable in our home and are safe with each other. I told her this and tried to reason logically with her about why she would possibly want to throw it all away on some whim. I urged her to think rationally and that even if she is having an affair (which she denied) Does she think that any other man would put up with her radical mood swings, inconsistencies and all the other bullshit that i have - for as long as I have. It got ugly again. For the record, she is not menapausal..
Yesterday morning, i stayed home from work and we made love, and it was the best sex we have had in years, and the first daylight sex in much longer than that . I stayed home because I thought she had made arrangemens to meet her maggot while I was at work and i was determined to fuck that up on her..
Afterwards, She said in a passing comment, "Wow, that is the best daylight sex i have had in ages"
My problem is this. My wife and i haven't had sex during the day time in a very long time. Probably about 8 years. what the hell is she talking about? did she slip up? or am I being paranoid?
Afterwards, I felt dirty and used. what the hell is going on here? Am I losing my mind?
I posted a while ago that I suspected my wife of 14 years was having an affair on me. All the usual red flags were there - all of them, but as yet, I still have no real proof that the affair actually existed. This has been going on for more than three years now,
Long story short,
It came to a head a couple of months ago, Accusations were thrown and heated words were exchanged after I caught her flirting with, and making doe eyes at a male co-worker. (he was and still is my prime suspect)
Shortly before this, and to his credit, this bloke approached me and asked me if I suspected him of having an affair with my wife. "because he felf a "vibe" coming from me (damn straight he did) and that he had been hearing rumours. - bullshit, I had never mentioned my suspicions to anyone there. We all work at the same place though I am in a different section.
I told him staight out of my suspicions and that if i ever got proof, two things would happen.
1. I would bury him.
2. I would tell his wife
not necissarily in that ordr.
This prick is a male slut, has cheated on his wife several times that I know of and even left her and their little child once for another woman. He is constantly hitting on all and sundry females at our work. Pretty much anyone with a pulse. Most of the women I talk to can't stand him because he is such a sleazy basterd. they all tell a similar story of his hitting on them. -You get the idea.
When I told him my intentions, the colour drained from his face and i think I saw real fear there.
When my wife and I had our strong words, she told me she was leaving. that it was all over etc etc and for once, my spine grew some bones and I said fine. Advised her of the reality that she had better see a lawyer because I allready had and that we should start packing the following day. We would both have to move out of our house, get the valuers in and start negotiations re a settlement because I was damned if I was just going to just walk away and give her anything without a fight.
For the first time in all our troubles, she actually broke down and cried and I left her to it..
The following morning, i was sitting by the computor when she came out and for the first time in three years, she initiated a sign of affection. (a little thing) She touched me affectionately on the arm as she walked past on her way to the bathroom. All my hard arse resolve melted and like the lap dog that I am, I also melted.
Shortly after this, things started to improve a bit and a couple of weeks later we went away on vacation. We did the whole romantic thing, staying is real nice places, rain forest cabins with spar and log fire etc etc, drank lots of wine, lots of eye contact, talked nicely a lot and even made love often and like we used to. It was bloody great! and I thought we were back on track.
At the end of the holliday, we returned home to work and reality and for a couple of weeks or so, things continued as they were while we were away. bloody brilliant! Lots of affection and cuddles, Lots of eye contact and plenty of great sex. I am a simple man - what can I say?
Over the past couple of weeks or so, I have noticed my wife gradually but surely pulling away from me. Less and less eye contact, finding excuses not to make love and rejecting affection and fearing that she was reverting back to her old nasty self, 4 nights ago I asked her if she was pulling away from me again. What was wrong? she said she didn't know.
Three nights ago, while I was cookng dinner, she came out and it was clear something was troubling her. she came into the kitchen and burst into tears and told me she just "can't live the lie anymore" that she no longer loves me that way that she used to or the way that I want her to. that I am a "good man" and that I deserve better.
This bloody gutted me and it seems clear to me that she is looking for an easy way out. She has broken my heart again, Just when the trust was starting to build and I thought we were making progress. i can't help myself from analysing everything she says and does looking for things to be suspicious of - again.
We had a calm, deep and meaningful discussion that night when all the time, I just wanted to smack her in the mouth. I have never struck a woman in my life and view any man who does with contempt and as being a coward.
The guts of the matter is that we are both in our 50's, though my wife looks much younger than her years (bitch) :)) and is still a VERY attractive woman. She is the most desireable woman I have ever met.. We are both comfortable in our home and are safe with each other. I told her this and tried to reason logically with her about why she would possibly want to throw it all away on some whim. I urged her to think rationally and that even if she is having an affair (which she denied) Does she think that any other man would put up with her radical mood swings, inconsistencies and all the other bullshit that i have - for as long as I have. It got ugly again. For the record, she is not menapausal..
Yesterday morning, i stayed home from work and we made love, and it was the best sex we have had in years, and the first daylight sex in much longer than that . I stayed home because I thought she had made arrangemens to meet her maggot while I was at work and i was determined to fuck that up on her..
Afterwards, She said in a passing comment, "Wow, that is the best daylight sex i have had in ages"
My problem is this. My wife and i haven't had sex during the day time in a very long time. Probably about 8 years. what the hell is she talking about? did she slip up? or am I being paranoid?
Afterwards, I felt dirty and used. what the hell is going on here? Am I losing my mind?
With a strong will, sleeping pills can get you through headaches, heartaches, and long nights. I wouldn't advise using these if your soul is in critical despair, but if you think you'd like to stick around this Earth for awhile longer, then that might just be the trick.
For you, it sounds like your head is in the right spot today and you're thinking like you should in light of all the misery she's put you through. Unfortunately, those better days won't last. They'll be many more sad days ahead that are just unavoidable. But latch on to the good days, persevere through the bad ones, and let time work its magic. In the end, it sounds like you'll be better off instead of having your soul churned around as if in a blender. I'm sure of it because it sounds like you're a decent fella.
By the way, don't give that sea kayak away to just any ol' gal. I'll plop on some eye liner and dawn a skirt if that'll get me a hand-made kayak. I'll even shave. But that's as far as it goes for me buddy. And you can paint it whatever color you want.
-TheRule
I would post a piccie of this boat only it is probably innappropriate in a support forum such as this.
Mate, if there is ever a next time, as the old sying goes, I think I'll just find a woman I allready hate and buy her a house. Save all the foreplay. LOL
Yep, I am sure there will be more very bad days, many of them. especially when the day that she actually moves out. but from then on, I can hopefully start to heal.
For now though, my resolve seems to be coming back a bit, and I seem to be just feeling sad for my loss. I can't let myself dwell on this because it just leads to another bout of bloody depression.
That comes over me like an all encompassing mist from the sea and completely overwhelms me. as it did yesterday. Bloody amazing thing, this depression.
I know that there are people here, much worse off than I am. At least there are no dependent kids involved and I should be grateful for that. I have a good job that pays reasonably well and is as secure as any job can be in these times and we are not over our heads in debt. All these things are true blessings.
I think it is time I should start to count all my blessings before I whine about how unfair life can be and what a bitch my wife can also be. The trouble is, that at the moment I am having a lot of difficulty with understanding why.
Still sending you support. You do sound so much more 'braced' for what comes. It will come and for that? You will be as ready as you can be for this.
Man, do I remember letting it all sink in to my brain and my gut - that this was really happening and there was no stopping it. I remember that so well.
Stay in touch with us all, Mick. We're there for you.
Oh yeah, if TheRule decides to show up with some eyeliner and get a skirt on? Can I see??? Hell, can I get in on this kayak action? Never tried it myself, but damn, I think I might have some fun!
L~
further to the ongoing saga. This seems to be getting like the never ending story LOL
We had another sort of Deap and meaningful tonight where I pressed her for the real reasons she wanted to move out.
Believe it or not, she actually said she wants to "FIND HERSELF"
These words have given me both the strength and the spite to see this through and I told her that and thanked her for it oh so politely.
I wished her a good night and a good life before I went off to bed - with a few choice expletives thrown in for good measure. I also told her that the sooner she moves out the better.
As soon as she went of to bed, i got up and back on here to continue my little story..
FIND HERSELF???!!! That is why she is putting you thru living hell??? To FIND herself???
Are you effing kidding me???!!!
Damn and shit, I 'find myself' loading up the expletives right along with you. What the hell?
Like you would not support her in this? Like she has to shut you out to find herself? Damn, I thought this was what marriage was all about - thru the good and the bad...
Let her go find herself the door, Mick. Just my opinion.
The kayak...just for spite..let me know what color? LOL...
Damn, this pisses me off...L~
I think it is best if you guys divorce as soon as possible.. Or atleast live separately until the legal divorce proceedings are done.. You are your TOP PRIORITY!! :)
The kayak is for grabs?? Mick, I will be coming over tomorrow.. Lets go fishing and relax.. :D
(Raj, honey, that is total crap and I have to strongly object. You have no dibs on the damned kayak...therule spoke up first..then me...just because you a bit closer to that side of the world doesn't mean you can just saunter into this and steal the kayak...dude...just kidding, you know I love the crap out of you!)
Yeah, find herself - still makes me shake my head. Why does she need to find herself apart from you? Hell, and why???
this just brings me more questions.
L~
In the cool, clear light of a new day, all I can say is 'GAME ON" My resolve is stronger than ever before and I seem to be at some sort of acceptance stage now and am in full on survival mode.
Her mind games will no longer work on me and who ever she is currently seeing is welcome to her. She is his problem now.
Mad as hell here now - but cold and calculating
That is the kicker dude...my wife said the same thing to me the night before she confessed..press her for the truth and do not let her leave the conversation until you get it..u deserve the truth...everyone does.
Thank you mate for chiming in here. I have read your post and you should know that I have some strong opinions on your dilemma. I am very sorry to hear of your pain but am too focussed on my own little problem at the moment -. sorry mate.
Well, it sems she has rolled her dice and she has told me even more lies tonight though she doesn't know that I know. We both went to work today and I am pretty proud of myself. i stuck to my guns, didn't ring her or go visit and I simply refuse to chase her any more. If she goes, she goes - end of story.
I have thrown myself into my work and find I am actually enjoying it again and it helps a lot to take my mind off what is going on. There is a new project taking shape and I am responsible for seeing it through. Very challenging and involves teaching and training unskilled workers in doing some pretty complex manufacturing processes. I love doing this stuff and "my boys" who have been allways very disadvantaged - opportunity wise are like sponges sucking up every little bit of information they can. Bloody brilliant! I had to yell at them to get them to stop wotk for morning and afternoon tea! a first. You get the idea.
So here I am, all strong and staunch - all day and then i come across her by accident in my travels around the place. i saw her in the distance, standing there so beautiful and you guessed it, my heart melted and broke at the same time. I was bloody soft butter at just thesight of her. God, I hate my self for being the weak basterd that I am. I bloody adore this woman.
Anyway, as I walked past, I said g'day and stopped for a chat and i think I carried the charade off pretty well.
Tonight, we came home, sat in front of the fireplace and talked quietly about our respective days and I think, i gave no clue about the anguish i feel. i tried not to anyway.
I have been wanting to go to America for several years now to paddle some of the amazing rivers there with some cyber friends from a couple of other forums and I just happened to mention that i will probably go next year.
her reply, "I thought you would."
HELL YEAH! you can bet your life on it. There is nothing to keep me here now. the plans are formulating as i write this. Fly to LA, buy a shitbox truck and a nice canoe and some camping gear and a 5 week road trip, seeing as much of the place and as many of my currently cyber mates as I can. Might even get the opportunity to ravage a few of the natives while I am at it. (smile)
That would be only fair. An American Marine came out her on exercise many years ago, stayed at my place, (long before Robin) stole my heart (as they do) and left. What can I say? I am a sucker for a woman in uniform, and I just love fighting women.
So there you have it. I think I am allready on the road to recovery, making plans for MY future and SHE is not included in them. I have been faithful for nearly 20 years, sacrificed my dignity for HER and I will no longer yield the high ground.
Hard days are ahead, for sure. now I have some goals and I am soo looking forward to not have all of her clutter in MY house.
Robin, when you read this, you can piss off any time you like. I love you but will never let you treat me like dirt again. My spine has grown bones and II will see you in court if you have the courage.
GAME FUCKING ON!
Hell, go ahead and find out the prices of various hiking gear and stuff online for the time when you come here next year.. :P
Read "The Secret".. :)
Hey, I will be out for town for about a week. See you guys on 6th Aug... :D
At this point, the paths are set for both of you. There appears to be no recovery at the moment. So, what will anger get you? Will that cause her to suddenly be into Mick again? Not likely. Rather, if she sees you angry or confrontational like this, it may turn her even more in the wrong direction. It may make ending the sad demise of your marriage even that much more troublesome and painful for you. I'm not saying you need to buckle like a stuck pig and give her anything she wants; what's yours is yours now and what's hers is hers. Just keep everything as much to your advantage as you can. Personally, I believe a strong showing of INDIFFERENCE from you towards her would do more to sadden her than anything else. You now have your life in your own hands and she no longer matters. Wouldn't that just irk the living crap out of you if you were on the other side of this?
Not sure this helps but that's how a 3rd party observer such as myself sees it, all being based on your posts of course. Hope this makes sense to you.
And if she's reading this, Robin, GET A CLUE WOMAN. Mick sounds like a good man who loves you dearly. Is your new prick-friend going to love you more? WAKE THE F*** UP!!!
-TheRule
It is still a roller coaster but the dispair seems to be dimishing some at the moment.
There is still sadness and grief for my loss, but I think the loss really happend 3 years ago and I am only coming to realize it now.
I was such a fool, Lived in denial of what was clear before my eyes and I am probably madder at myself than Robin over this.
Life for me will definately go on without her. Bloody hell, I don't even know who she is anymore. I caught her in a lie last night but I just couldn't be bothered to pursue the matter. There is no point really.
I think she has made her mind up and is only sticking round now till she can get somewhere else to go. Either that, or this is just another sad attempt at mind games to try to get me to react and do something silly.
As someone said to me very recently here, as one door closes - another one will open. I am in no hurry but there is a light at the end of my tunnel now.
We bloody need smilies here BTW :)))