Infidelity Support Group
Any relationship in which one partner engages willfully in sexual relations with another outside of the partnership is considered to have experienced infidelity. This breach of trust is often traumatizing for the faithful partner as well as the relationship, and support is often needed to heal emotionally and to decide whether or not the relationship should continue after...
hairymick
G'day guys,
I posted a while ago that I suspected my wife of 14 years was having an affair on me. All the usual red flags were there - all of them, but as yet, I still have no real proof that the affair actually existed. This has been going on for more than three years now,
Long story short,
It came to a head a couple of months ago, Accusations were thrown and heated words were exchanged after I caught her flirting with, and making doe eyes at a male co-worker. (he was and still is my prime suspect)
Shortly before this, and to his credit, this bloke approached me and asked me if I suspected him of having an affair with my wife. "because he felf a "vibe" coming from me (damn straight he did) and that he had been hearing rumours. - bullshit, I had never mentioned my suspicions to anyone there. We all work at the same place though I am in a different section.
I told him staight out of my suspicions and that if i ever got proof, two things would happen.
1. I would bury him.
2. I would tell his wife
not necissarily in that ordr.
This prick is a male slut, has cheated on his wife several times that I know of and even left her and their little child once for another woman. He is constantly hitting on all and sundry females at our work. Pretty much anyone with a pulse. Most of the women I talk to can't stand him because he is such a sleazy basterd. they all tell a similar story of his hitting on them. -You get the idea.
When I told him my intentions, the colour drained from his face and i think I saw real fear there.
When my wife and I had our strong words, she told me she was leaving. that it was all over etc etc and for once, my spine grew some bones and I said fine. Advised her of the reality that she had better see a lawyer because I allready had and that we should start packing the following day. We would both have to move out of our house, get the valuers in and start negotiations re a settlement because I was damned if I was just going to just walk away and give her anything without a fight.
For the first time in all our troubles, she actually broke down and cried and I left her to it..
The following morning, i was sitting by the computor when she came out and for the first time in three years, she initiated a sign of affection. (a little thing) She touched me affectionately on the arm as she walked past on her way to the bathroom. All my hard arse resolve melted and like the lap dog that I am, I also melted.
Shortly after this, things started to improve a bit and a couple of weeks later we went away on vacation. We did the whole romantic thing, staying is real nice places, rain forest cabins with spar and log fire etc etc, drank lots of wine, lots of eye contact, talked nicely a lot and even made love often and like we used to. It was bloody great! and I thought we were back on track.
At the end of the holliday, we returned home to work and reality and for a couple of weeks or so, things continued as they were while we were away. bloody brilliant! Lots of affection and cuddles, Lots of eye contact and plenty of great sex. I am a simple man - what can I say?
Over the past couple of weeks or so, I have noticed my wife gradually but surely pulling away from me. Less and less eye contact, finding excuses not to make love and rejecting affection and fearing that she was reverting back to her old nasty self, 4 nights ago I asked her if she was pulling away from me again. What was wrong? she said she didn't know.
Three nights ago, while I was cookng dinner, she came out and it was clear something was troubling her. she came into the kitchen and burst into tears and told me she just "can't live the lie anymore" that she no longer loves me that way that she used to or the way that I want her to. that I am a "good man" and that I deserve better.
This bloody gutted me and it seems clear to me that she is looking for an easy way out. She has broken my heart again, Just when the trust was starting to build and I thought we were making progress. i can't help myself from analysing everything she says and does looking for things to be suspicious of - again.
We had a calm, deep and meaningful discussion that night when all the time, I just wanted to smack her in the mouth. I have never struck a woman in my life and view any man who does with contempt and as being a coward.
The guts of the matter is that we are both in our 50's, though my wife looks much younger than her years (bitch) :)) and is still a VERY attractive woman. She is the most desireable woman I have ever met.. We are both comfortable in our home and are safe with each other. I told her this and tried to reason logically with her about why she would possibly want to throw it all away on some whim. I urged her to think rationally and that even if she is having an affair (which she denied) Does she think that any other man would put up with her radical mood swings, inconsistencies and all the other bullshit that i have - for as long as I have. It got ugly again. For the record, she is not menapausal..
Yesterday morning, i stayed home from work and we made love, and it was the best sex we have had in years, and the first daylight sex in much longer than that . I stayed home because I thought she had made arrangemens to meet her maggot while I was at work and i was determined to fuck that up on her..
Afterwards, She said in a passing comment, "Wow, that is the best daylight sex i have had in ages"
My problem is this. My wife and i haven't had sex during the day time in a very long time. Probably about 8 years. what the hell is she talking about? did she slip up? or am I being paranoid?
Afterwards, I felt dirty and used. what the hell is going on here? Am I losing my mind?
I posted a while ago that I suspected my wife of 14 years was having an affair on me. All the usual red flags were there - all of them, but as yet, I still have no real proof that the affair actually existed. This has been going on for more than three years now,
Long story short,
It came to a head a couple of months ago, Accusations were thrown and heated words were exchanged after I caught her flirting with, and making doe eyes at a male co-worker. (he was and still is my prime suspect)
Shortly before this, and to his credit, this bloke approached me and asked me if I suspected him of having an affair with my wife. "because he felf a "vibe" coming from me (damn straight he did) and that he had been hearing rumours. - bullshit, I had never mentioned my suspicions to anyone there. We all work at the same place though I am in a different section.
I told him staight out of my suspicions and that if i ever got proof, two things would happen.
1. I would bury him.
2. I would tell his wife
not necissarily in that ordr.
This prick is a male slut, has cheated on his wife several times that I know of and even left her and their little child once for another woman. He is constantly hitting on all and sundry females at our work. Pretty much anyone with a pulse. Most of the women I talk to can't stand him because he is such a sleazy basterd. they all tell a similar story of his hitting on them. -You get the idea.
When I told him my intentions, the colour drained from his face and i think I saw real fear there.
When my wife and I had our strong words, she told me she was leaving. that it was all over etc etc and for once, my spine grew some bones and I said fine. Advised her of the reality that she had better see a lawyer because I allready had and that we should start packing the following day. We would both have to move out of our house, get the valuers in and start negotiations re a settlement because I was damned if I was just going to just walk away and give her anything without a fight.
For the first time in all our troubles, she actually broke down and cried and I left her to it..
The following morning, i was sitting by the computor when she came out and for the first time in three years, she initiated a sign of affection. (a little thing) She touched me affectionately on the arm as she walked past on her way to the bathroom. All my hard arse resolve melted and like the lap dog that I am, I also melted.
Shortly after this, things started to improve a bit and a couple of weeks later we went away on vacation. We did the whole romantic thing, staying is real nice places, rain forest cabins with spar and log fire etc etc, drank lots of wine, lots of eye contact, talked nicely a lot and even made love often and like we used to. It was bloody great! and I thought we were back on track.
At the end of the holliday, we returned home to work and reality and for a couple of weeks or so, things continued as they were while we were away. bloody brilliant! Lots of affection and cuddles, Lots of eye contact and plenty of great sex. I am a simple man - what can I say?
Over the past couple of weeks or so, I have noticed my wife gradually but surely pulling away from me. Less and less eye contact, finding excuses not to make love and rejecting affection and fearing that she was reverting back to her old nasty self, 4 nights ago I asked her if she was pulling away from me again. What was wrong? she said she didn't know.
Three nights ago, while I was cookng dinner, she came out and it was clear something was troubling her. she came into the kitchen and burst into tears and told me she just "can't live the lie anymore" that she no longer loves me that way that she used to or the way that I want her to. that I am a "good man" and that I deserve better.
This bloody gutted me and it seems clear to me that she is looking for an easy way out. She has broken my heart again, Just when the trust was starting to build and I thought we were making progress. i can't help myself from analysing everything she says and does looking for things to be suspicious of - again.
We had a calm, deep and meaningful discussion that night when all the time, I just wanted to smack her in the mouth. I have never struck a woman in my life and view any man who does with contempt and as being a coward.
The guts of the matter is that we are both in our 50's, though my wife looks much younger than her years (bitch) :)) and is still a VERY attractive woman. She is the most desireable woman I have ever met.. We are both comfortable in our home and are safe with each other. I told her this and tried to reason logically with her about why she would possibly want to throw it all away on some whim. I urged her to think rationally and that even if she is having an affair (which she denied) Does she think that any other man would put up with her radical mood swings, inconsistencies and all the other bullshit that i have - for as long as I have. It got ugly again. For the record, she is not menapausal..
Yesterday morning, i stayed home from work and we made love, and it was the best sex we have had in years, and the first daylight sex in much longer than that . I stayed home because I thought she had made arrangemens to meet her maggot while I was at work and i was determined to fuck that up on her..
Afterwards, She said in a passing comment, "Wow, that is the best daylight sex i have had in ages"
My problem is this. My wife and i haven't had sex during the day time in a very long time. Probably about 8 years. what the hell is she talking about? did she slip up? or am I being paranoid?
Afterwards, I felt dirty and used. what the hell is going on here? Am I losing my mind?
I like your healthy dose of honesty and cynisim mate. I don't pretent to be the perfect man or husband but there is nothing in any of my posts that is not true. I am telling my story from my perspective of course. Robin's side of it would probably be very different. i just don't know what that is.
There are several indisputable facts in this.
1. I have suspected her of having an affair or affairs.
2. there is plenty of good evidence to support my suspicions
3. She has allways denied the affairs (and still does)
4. I have no proof. just an unending set of "coincidences" contradicting stories and actual threats made by her that she was going to have an affair.
5. she is leaving me for no apparent other good reason that to "find herself"
The suspected infidelity now seems pretty much irrelevent. She is leaving me - fact. I have never raised a hand to her nor even threatoned to do so. I don't verbally or emotionally abuse her - never have. In fact, i would go so far as to say that I am the one who has been verbally and emotionally abused into submission.LOL
And now you understand why I put my heart 'away.' Now you understand why I have a hard time giving it now. That pain that is resting on you now was my close companion too, for way too long. Hell, it moved in and breathed down my neck regularly. Sure, I got my self together on the kid front and the job front and the school front - but the front where my heart was sitting 'away?' I let it be like that.
And now to consider dragging it off the shelf? Utterly scarey. Amazingly lonely. In my mind? I picture it like it's on some shelf and all dusty. I so want to take it down and clean it up, make it all presentable. I ask myself if it's just too far gone? Too dusty? Hell, it looks rusty too! So, I end up shutting the door and letting it accumulate a bit more dust and dirt...but it's still in the back of my mind to deal with that...get to that...put it on the to-do list.
Meeting this guy makes me really want to take it off the shelf. So, it's moving up the to-do list. Gaining some priority.
That's something, isn't it?
So, Mick, don't let your heart get too dusty. It's just too hard to UN-do.
L~
Maybe you should let them?
LOL...L~
Mick, hope you didn't think I was questioning you or your integrity. Just curious, as you mentioned, what her view would be if she posted here. Probably delusional and in denial.
Best day to you both.
-TheRule
My thought is that your hubby is using you. He may well be having great sex with you but look at the conntinual lies ad deceptions objectively. I think he has some sort of persnality disorder to be continually messing with your head and emotions like he is. perhaps it is a power trip for him?
Know that we are here for you and that I am praying for you too.
Rule, No problem mate. I have tried to look at this from her angle - or what i think she might be thinking. She has given me so very little to work with. back soon. she just invaded my "special time.
I helped her with the heavy stuff and took one of the freezers, her big easy chair and the main dining room suite down to her new home this morning.
The clutter seems to be thinning some and she has taken most of her spirituual artifacts that have made this home what it is, for so long. All her toiletries and most of her nice clothes are also gone now. i look around me and see most of the photographs are gone, interestingly, our wedding photoes are left prominantly on display. Not sure what to make of that.
The house is very quiet and even the dogs are subdued.
Today was te worst day of my life, so far and it is only yet 2pm. The night is yet to come and I am dreading it. Helping her pack was like watching my life just walk out the door.
I think I maintained a little of my dignity today - not much, but at least a little. It is in a way a relief that she is gone. now, I can cry all I want and there is nobody here to witness my complete humiliation.
All my former bravado is bullshit. I was going to have a big cook up tonight as part of my pity party but now, I couldn't be bothered to even light the fire. I might have a sacrificial burning of some stuff If I can be bothered to carry it down the back. Will see a bit later.
Will be back soon
and so the afternoon wears on iinto evening. i am going through the motions of trying to clean up the mess she has left behind in her haste to get out of the place. My heart isn't in it. I am too busy feeling sorry for myself.
Everywhere I look, there are reminders of better days, great days and times even. they seem so long ago - another lifetime.
Oh boy, i would get drunk - if I could be bothered to go to the fridge.. I am so pathetic I feel like laughing. i would buy a hooker (another first) for tonight if I could be bothered to find my glasses so I can read the phone book. At least she would pretend for a while)
While I know SHE and her daughter are having a party in their new home tonight. Shit, that hurts a bit. lol.
I will get back to a little more cleaning. At least it helps to take my mind off things.
Will be back soon.
Thank God this place is here. it is my lifeline at the moment.
lovemick
just a quick update. i am doing better than I expected I would be by now. Sort of OK, both shelli and Coping have chatted with me today and for that I am eternally grateful. Thank you both very much.
I'm in the GC. HI!
Hope you pick up ok. Divorces are nightmares!
At least you live in a sunnier part of the world... that's gotta count for something! x
Feeling much better, stronger and more confident today. I am not completely sure why that is but I am grateful for it.
I survived the worst day of my life fairly intact and today was much better.
I see Robin has finally left, I can only empathise with you here.
It is nice to see your positive message above and I hope with time your heart will mend and you will find love and happiness once more.
God bless
Afable
Just got back from a few days away. It's always good to be home. One of the first things I did was to check into this thread and see how everyone was fairing.
So, Mick...she is gone. I see your posts going from desolate to resolute. You mention that you may not understand the exact reason why for this. I may have a hint. Let me tell you and you can tell me if I am wrong. I may be, too.
So, she left. You walked around and started cleaning up. You kept going. You kept moving. You may have sat down and let the realization sink in, but you got back up. You kept reaching out here.
You kept on.
You still breath and think. You still feel. You still are.
Did you find that all of these core things to you continued, regardless of her? These core things will continue, no matter what. You will also.
For those who think they can walk out and leave us, and we will just shrivel up and die...remember...we don't. Not as easily as they would think, or assume.
"Even when I think I can do no more and give no more, I find that I can. I find I have more."
Are you seeing this now? I hope you are.
Sorry I was gone for the weekend. Man, I was worried about you.
So, she may have had a party. Big deal. Her cold realization has not hit her yet. Good luck to her when it does.
We're still here for you. I am sure you have many that are there for you too. I see, also, that you are eating meat again. There is nothing like a huge slab of meat, is there? That, with a Corona? You, my friend, have the world...
Still sending support and will check in often, my close friend half a world away...
L~
I am now on Day two ad feeling much better than I expected I would be. I don't really understand this..
The delolation seems to be gone and has been replaced with a sort of meloncholy (sp) i have an appointment with my counselor today. Perhaps she might be able to explain. my stange feelings.
I think I am coming to some sort of acceptance stage where I know that she is going to do what she wants to and that there is NOTHING I can do about it. For her, she is creating her own reality and embarking on a grand new adventure and I hope it turns out to be everything she wants. I won't try to hold her back anymore.
The house is strangely quiet and I think I am getting used to that. My smugness of yesterday is gone. All that is left is sadness. I need to shop for food today and I am determined to eat well and to try to maintain my physical health. My age old enemy - depression is knocking at the door but I won't let that basterd in again if I can possibly help it..
While I am fairly confident that I will be able to find a nice lady to love me and to hold me when I am ready, I am in no hurry. I desperately need to be held and to be loved and comforted at the moment but it would be unfair on her. And I will never treat a woman like this, or use one for my own selfish ends. If necessary, I will buy a hooker from time to time, just for the pretend comfort of being held in a womans arms while I cry.
Does any of this make sense? buggered if it does to me.
My wife said some strange things to m yesterday while I was helping her move more of her stuff. I don't know if she is still playing mind games with me or not. An example is that she tole me i was the best, most considerate and gentle lover she has ever had and that any woman who gets me would be very lucky. WTF? As much as i would like to believe her LOL I doubt the truth of this. I look in her eyes now and see the confidence of just a few days ago dissappearing - or I think I do anyway. I told her again yesterday, that she doesn't have to do this thing that it not too late yet but she seems steely in her resolve. Whatever it is that she wants, she wants more than me. That is clear.
Hopefully my counselor can explain some oof these thing?
lovemick