.....so can a lying husband.

so can a cheating, idiotic husband!

I know your pain, I am a wind turbine technician who travels the country 6 months out of the year. That completely contributed to my wife being lonely, getting addicted to online games, and starting an affair with a person she met there. I say contributed because in the end, I'm realizing she made her own decisions.

I'd have to say that after she left I work more. It's been a great success for me. I work harder and longer hours. Promotions, raises..It is the only thing really going for me...hmmm :/

I know what you are saying. People work more to provide for their family. Then people are not home for the other person.


I am going to go there because we know how I like to.

From my experience women like the money you make so they can get what they want but bitch when you are not there. Well cant have every thing.

G - I hate it when you just say "women". Not ALL women are like that. Not ALL men work. It's not all about the money to everyone.

As far as I'm concerned, if you were working more hours so that daycare was avoided ... it was a good thing. While the children are very young, who wants to put them in daycare unless it's absolutely necessary?

When we were both working full-time, we both put in long hours at the office. I doubt it helped our marriage at all, but yeah, we both liked having the money that came with the work.

I think overcommitting to your job can give you less time to determine if you and your spouse are on the same page with what you want out of life.

In the old days, committing to your job made you a good provider. Now, it just drains energy away from areas that you might be taking for granted.

I dont know if i buy that Rman....maybe for some that is true,but not all. (in terms of working too much)

I guess it depends on the people involved. My stbx was constantly deployed...sometimes up to a 12 months at a time. I dont feel that it ruined our relationship,and I never sought out others because he was working too much. I knew what I was getting into when I married a military man. Some can handle it, some cant. Either way, work is part of life.

yes

Sometimes I felt bad for being gone 25% of my time on business travel because of the children and the burden that was on him during the week I was gone. Luckily, all the children were old enough to help out except for the baby whom my ex dropped off at my mother's house for the entire week that I would be gone. He didn't want the responsibility of care taking our young one. His office was 3 miles from my mother and he wouldn't call her nor visit his son while I was gone. So, yes...my work came with a huge pang of sacrifice. When I came back to town, he would travel for his job and would be gone for 2 weeks at a time. I came to realize that I appreciated him being gone because when he was back home, all he did was complain on how things were not perfect, how he didn't like how my hair was done and so on...

GSCH....you are so fucking wrong. I worked my ass off most of my adult life. I came with a good package when my ex married me. I owned my own house, cars and a good career....and today....I own my own home, cars have two kids in college and you say 'women' like the money? I left him debt free and with a nice size of savings because I gave my 100% of earnings into our marriage....

Z,

Don't get all worked up. Your youngest has more insight to offer in this forum than Grape Ape does.

TD just beat me to what I was going to say.

Except he was nicer than I was going to be.

I just hate ignorant remarks that blames a blanket of people because of their own poor choices. But, you are right....my little fella is quite insightful and sassy.

I could spin it another way.

Grape Ape does serve a purpose here.

He's a shining example of the person we don't want in our lives, and constantly reinforces what we don't want our children to be.

Much like me!

My ex tried the "you're married to your job" line as an excuse for his adultery.

I say "Bullshit!"

He worked shift work for years and I sat home many a weekend and evening alone. Using his rationale, I should have been having affairs for years. I mean, after all, he was working and I was home alone and lonely.

But I didn't do that because of something called a marriage vow that, in part, said I would forsake all others. That's the part he forgot.

I think the cheaters want to use all the excuses in the world to justify their immoral behavior. There is no justification.

Let's face it: when the cheaters go before God, he won't be taken in by their stupid excuses. Why should we?