OK, this has become way too serious, let's just bash the Bobs and leave the touchier subjects alone folks.

Back to clean, dirty old fun.

You guys are reading into this entirely wrong........I am saying that there are real victims of rape out there....That there is a dark figure of crime for non-reported rape where the woman doesn't report it...but there is a large figure where the woman makes a false claim. It isn't saying that all rape victims are liars because you have to proove everything else before you can say that.

Seriously, I have worked these sex crimes and been the reporting officer on them. I have seen what happens. There are times when you have the real deal and it is absoultely horrible. I have been to classes on interviewing rape victims and it is not a pleasant interview at all. Rape is the most demeaning crime out there. When a woman is raped, her life is altered from that point on.

I am not trying to down play the actual role of rape or throw mud in rape victims eyes. I am stating the facts that there is a large number of falsely reported rapes...probably proportional to the amount of non-reported rapes.

You said it in the first paragraph of Reply 94#

But you have no compassion for innocent women and children in war zones either so, no surprise. You are a wolf on sheep's clothing. It's nice you are going past your pirate persona so we can see who you really are.

And THESE stats came from Vanderbilt Univercity - NOT the Enquirer.

Myth: Women often lie about being raped.
Fact: Only about 2% of all rape and related sex charges are determined to be false, the same percentage as for other felonies. Many cases are dropped because of insufficient evidence for conviction but this should not be confused with false reporting.

So, do you want to assert again that a "big proportion" are false???

There IS NOT a large figure of falsr reports - unless you are getting your News from FOX. EVERY LIGITAMATE source says the number of false reports are very SMALL.

Yeah, and cuz you are ALLEGEDLY a police officer, yu purport that that fact alone gives you some sort of uber-credibility, what fucking ever! I am so pro-cop, but I am so anti pseudo-cop/liar cop. And as to the rape stats, I think you are talking out of your ASS! I have TONS of experience in all of these areas, professional and personal, so don't even think you can bullshit me.

Sorry, Pitt, I know it is easier to say let's keep it light, but when someone challenges something so critical, I feel most entitled to speak my mind.

Thanks Anne - it is scary to me when someone who is supposed to be an authority figure as such wrong, scewed and inaccurate "facts" on such an important topic. I am glad I will never be a rape victim having to deal with a cop who thinks a "large purportion" of women are making false claims. UGH.

And, I might add, a lot of women DON'T report it because they have to deal with men like you in positions of power who doubt their claim.

Yes, indeed, Jo, I hear you. LOUD AND CLEAR.

Well, then I shall bow out of here Anne, I was only in this for the fun and do not want any parts of this argument. I do not know about the stats, I am not a cop, and I will not pretend to talk about things that I honestly don't have the information on.

So, with that, good will to all of you, I hope that you will all stay friends, and good night to this thread.

As a victim of this crime that you people are playing around with like it's candy. Most stranger rapes are NEVER CAUGHT. There are no statistics. So why don't you all just STFU? It's not a cocktail hour discussion and it's not funny. Most rapes are unreported. Shut up unless you know what your talking about. Idiots.

Alright Joan...I haven't started said any personal attacks..but calling me a wolf in sheeps clothing is a low blow. You don't even know me! You don't know what I stand for or who I am.

If I have offened any women and mixed up words I am sorry...But the fact is that I have seen the cases come in. THe statics that Joan brings up are cases that actually go to the point of reporting. I have seen them when they come in and the case never ended up being reported.

Another unfortunate fact is that when the case is reported some victims don't follow through with the case. That is ashame and not good.

I am not trying to defend rapists. They are vial people who need to be thrown in jail and never get out (you can't rehabilitate them). Casitration was a subject that was studied and surprisingly, it was found to be ineffective in detering further sexual assaults.

There are probably a few women on this board that have been victims of rape...probably a few of them that haven't report it.

The common misconception is that rape is a crime of sex. It isn't. It is about power and control.

None the less...I think that we have gotten far off the beaten path. This post was meant to be a joke and not to be taken seriously and it has turned into a monster. Please don't misinterpriate what I am saying here as I am speaking with my years of experience in law enforcement. Yes...my view points can be jaded from years on the job. No, I am not saying that rape is excusable or always false. I know that a lot of the reports I took didn't go to prosecution and I never had the cases in court.

Actually I'd kind of like to talk about the love dolls some more. I mean come on who is really hurt by a product like that? Although I guess it would be kind of awkward to have to call in sick because you threw your back out carrying your "girlfriend" to bed.

Again, as a woman I just have to say I am incredibly insulted by Heaves comments in this thread.

Rape against any person, man or woman, is a serious offense and deserves to be treated as such. It's not a laughing matter. How is anyone who is a victim of this type of crime supposed to get justice when the cops who are sworn to investigate it don't take it seriously??

Yes, there are many rapes cases that go unreported because the victims are too embarrassed to file a report and yes there are those who make false allegations but many of the cases that are reported are not given the proper attention they deserve precisely because of the mentality that was clearly demonstrated by Heave and other similar cops. It's such a sad statement when a victim not only loses her dignity and security by the person who raped her but she also loses her dignity again by the cop who believes she is a liar and doesn't bother to his job properly.

Regardless of where the post started, you, Heave, made some ill-thought-out comments that needed redress. I, for one, will not ignore ignorant or arrogant "remarks" about rape, whichever they are. My town just suffered with yet another blow yesterday in this regard (a well-seasoned deputy district atty, someone I know, was accused/arrested just yesterday of raping another district atty), and it is most raw for me. Not to mention that I am one of those "statistics", two times (stranger and then husband). As for what you profess to know, you are completely ignorant.