In the real world Adjudication Withheld means there was no conviction because no verdict has been entered. In FloriDUH that's only true sometimes and sex offenses are not one of those times for the purposes of registration. When it comes to sex offenses and some other capital crimes adjudication withheld counts as a guilty verdict from a jury or as if the defendant entered a guilty plea even if neither one of those things happened.

I actually meant to write more.....oops

Advocate is also right about registration being a statutory requirement a judge has no real control over. It's only under certain rare circumstances that a judge can waive the registration requirement.

yeah and I looked it up in the Florida statutes - all other adjudication withheld can apply for expungement except Sex offenses - of course

Bottom line is that they all suck!

Yes they do!

I did a little checking and according to Utah law if you are required to register in any other jurisdiction you must also register in Utah if you move there.

77-41-102
(c) (i) is required to register as an offender in any other jurisdiction, or who is required to register as an offender by any state, federal, or military court; and
(ii) in any 12 month period, is in this state for a total of 10 or more days, regardless of whether or not the offender intends to permanently reside in this state;

For offenses committed in Utah, the statutory registration requirement is lifetime for repeat offenders and those with Aggravated Sexual Offenses and 10 years for all other enumerated sex offenses.

I talked to the lady that runs the registration in my County..If you are required to register for life(or what ever term) in another state, you will have to register for that length of time in Utah....No BS, she is a 'Straight Shooter'....

I live in colorado and the laws here keep evolving its very hard to find jobs or a place to live. There has been talk of establishing a town for sex offenders. And i think to myself isn't that called a concentration camp.

Hi Coastie – I do not doubt her word or yours – that is in Utah. It sounds like in other states that may not be the case. I do not know why it would be different – SORNA compliant or some such but as far as I can tell some states use their guidelines when someone moves there – on the surface ND seems to be one and Portland OR seems to also follow that standard (applying their rules when someone moves).

The reason I think it might be based on SORNA is because most states that are SORNA compliant have the tier system. Under the SORNA tier system my son would have 10-15 years on the registry. Florida, although they have been listed since very early on as SORNA compliant I have never been able to figure out why they are – for one thing they do not practice the tier system – everyone is life on the registry – period. Understand my son was not given life on the registry by a judge or any such thing – ALL people adjudicated for a sex crime in Florida are life on the registry for life even adjudication withheld. I even found this page where SORNA acknowledges that Florida does not have the tier system etc. but they did not take them from the list of states that were compliant. When I sent an email asking about it the answer was that they had complied enough. From what I understand SORNA considers things that do not meet minimum standards to be non compliant but anything that exceeds the standards (like lifetime registration for tier 1 offenses) is ok.

So I guess the bottom line is this – states are all different – and cities and counties for that matter. Before I would ever move as a registered citizen or advise one to move I would make sure I know all the details. You talked about what is fair and what is not – fairness does not really play into any of these laws. What I do not think is fair is that my son’s crime in Florida carries lifetime registration (all do) but 2 states over he would be on the registry for 10 years. Several states away he would not be on a public registry at all. That is what is not fair. I am not asking for any special treatment toward my son – just trying to have some hope and feeling angry that by the virtue of the state he lives in his punishment is 100 times longer than the same crime in another state.

The sky is blue.

I sometimes read about people saying how bad Texas is for a RSO, I guess there are cities in this state that are tough, I have lived here all my life, have been on the dreaded registry for about 9 years.

Probation was difficult, but as for restrictions now being off really do not have any.

Register once a year, renew drivers license.

Can hunt, fish, go to parks with my kids and in my area no restrictions where you can live.

No Halloween nightmares and even if the told me to stay home I would not, There is no law in Texas that says you have to, only for those on probation, etc.

So in the end I do not think any state is perfect, but Florida does seem like the worst.

buildingupslow

Buildingupslow – In Texas you can go to parks and stuff? You mention hunting – you have your civil rights back? Wow – no living restrictions either? I have heard just the opposite about Texas. Was your case a special one? One thing I have heard about Texas is that they add more names to the registry per month than any other state.

SORNA was intended to make registration more uniform "across the many states" and the carrot to make that happen is federal funding in the form of Byrnes Memorial Justice Assistance Grants to offset the cost of running a registry. Some states are SORNA compliant and some aren't but there is also a third category that will still get a state federal funding and that is "Substantially SORNA Compliant". Florida is an example of a substantially SORNA compliant state in that they met the guidelines to be considered as such but didn't meet any of the other guidelines that don't impact the availability of federal funding, In the attempt to institute standardized registration requirements across the country SORNA has been a miserable failure.

Do individual states have the right to run a sex offender registry as they see fit? Absolutely but the extreme differences in registration requirements also flies in the face of fundamental fairness when you consider that many states wouldn't have a sex offender registry except for federal legislation mandating that they do.

Coastie - Seriously?? Advocate has done nothing but treat your comments with respect. If you don't like her opinions don't talk to her. If you don't want to be treated like a childish ass then for God's sake stop acting like one.

I live in Texas, and not a good state for RSO's. It took us a long time to find a little somewhat peace but still havent just living day to day here. In 8 years my husbands probation is over then we are leaving.

Aladdin..
Please do not speak to me and I will show you the same courtesy......Thank you....

Coastie,

Aladin was only telling you to be nice that there was no reason to talk to Advocate the way you did. If you don't like what people say on here, then don't respond to their comments. Advocate didn't say anything to deserve the posts you aimed at her. You too can show courtesy.