whats the 180?

13 is a bad luck number.

Don't go no contact. Play along. Use her game against her to see how she likes a little taste of her own medicine.

Lol which reminds me of when my ex wife was trying to initiate sex and I let her on and then I said ohh but I have a head ache! Ahh pay back! Lol

not everyone wants or needs revenge you are a sad sad soul and you really wonder why your relationship ended???! LOL

Giving advice is just that people ADVICE...of course he will do what he thinks is best or what he wants to do but whatever happens is on him...

Personally I would cut ties with her. Even if she comes back you don't want to be waiting on the side and what if she finds someone else again and again??? Your worth more than that.

I aint done nothing like that Galvatron, but I did act out once. A good friend of mine who was female, said when she calls, you should act like you are busy and can't stay on the phone, or have the music going in the background like you got people over. This was because my ex would call to just fuck with me, give me hope then pull it away. She knew I was new to the area and didn't know many people so I wouldn't be out and about much or have any real friends more then have the U.S. away from home.

Well, one morning my ex called early, I think it was just before 7am. I knew what she wanted, (money), and she knew I was going up to the mountains for the weekend.. I thought I would try what my friend suggested so I turned on the Tv and when I answered I acted all rushed. Then I said, "hold on one second" when she started to get evil, which was about 2 minutes in to the call. I muffled the phone and just membled to myself. I get back on and she went offl "who are you talking to?!" who is there so early"? "Some ho?" I thought, no, you are not here, but just said... "A friend" Then pretended to tell my imaginary friend there were "towels in the cabinet over there"... she went nutz.... hung up on me... this all from someone who was already sleeping with a married guy.

it did feel good for a moment... that was about as nasty as I got to her....

I wish I had a friend like her on the side. Every time I get bored, I call her up and we go have a fling. Oh MY! that's a booty call. ain't nothing wrong with that as long as she doesn't grab hold on to you like a starfish on a rock.

was this before she left you Galvatron?

also, aren't you married now?

yea, happily married.

in california!

Gabriel, in the name of heaven, memorize this:

http://www.dailystrength.org/c/Infidelity/forum/2591291-180

oh THATS whatnthe 180 is !

that should be putin the manual

It seems to me that you do not have a choice than to not contact her. She told you she is in love with another man.

In your previous relationship you were in a triangulated relationship. Again, you are in a triangulated relationship.

My suggestion to you is that you focus on you and forget whether or not you should remain in case she changes her mind.

Sorry if I offended you in any way.

It is your decision whether or not to call her. I still believe you are looking for people who will validate your decision to be in a bad relationship. Sorry, most people here are not going to do that.

My advice: block her on FB, unfriend her, block her calls and texts. She is using you, plain and simple.

And please, stop hiding behind your illness and using it as an excuse to continue in a bad relationship. I've suffered from clinical depression for over a decade; that didn't stop me from kicking my lying, cheating ex to the curb. I'm not trying to be harsh, but you seem to pull that illness issue out to justify keeping in contact with her.

Ultimately, it's your life, but eventually people will stop discussing this topic because they will see that you have no interest in hearing any other opinion other than the one that says, "Sure, call her. Go back and be mistreated."

Sorry. That's how I see this.

Please stand up for yourself and walk away from this woman. She is nothing but trouble and heartache for you.

She called as I predicted. I answered ready to tell her this was the last conversation. But she was crying, she told me the lawyer thing was a lie to stop her from getting more involved with me. She said she feels resistance to falling in love with me every time we get closer because her only experience with me has been to very abusive relationships. She feels anger inside and she is going to work this out with a therapist. SHe told me she felt she was crying on my shoulder and that she missed me terribly. She told me very loving things. She was elated that I answered the phone. I said I was about to cut all ties with her and she said she would have pursued me until she got me back. Sp now I know i can pull back way back and make her miss me and want me more. This is not the first time she makes a move away from me when we start getting closer. And what she said now is consistent with what she has told me before and with what I have read of abused women. She said in spite of her fear and anger she could not be without me. She had two days of torture because I did not answer her calls. I should have continued not answering for a week or more. In any case she still has a problem getting more involved with me, because of her past abuse, but at the same time she cannot let me go. She has formed a special bond with me in spite of her anger and fear of committing to a new relationship. Now I know as one of you suggested that moving away from her gets her closer to me. Being more aloof and not calling her seems the way to go if I want to try to get her to really love me. If she ever distances from me again now I know I can disappear for a long time and have her at my feet. But I realize this is going to take a long time, She has issues. So in the meantime I will date other women and let her know. We are just friends, with a special bond, and with benefits. But I have to be careful not to get too excited about her. She might never overcome those issues. I really like her and I am willingyer to try what I said. At least there is no lawyer and I am her #1 even if she has issues. I hope that treating her with distance and making her see she can lose me I can make her really want me as i deserve. Otherwise, I need to move on.

gabriel, you should be ashamed of yourself. you are playing her.

one minute, you take a just friends position. the next minute, you take a friends with benefits position. then, it is you are in love with her and want her.

i think that you should just leave her alone. you can't even decide what you really want and where to make a stand let alone how you can best commit to and love a woman well.

"at your feet." what a horrible statement to make. at your age, you know better.