I agree with what you say Mamalyn. You are exactly right in a lot of ways. Finding a home where the parents care and actually take the time to raise the kids right is rare.

There are a lot of single parents who do a great job but they have a SUPER TOUGH job because they are doing all the work of two parents.

If some of this stuff doesn't get better with the way children are being raised then this country is in for some serious trouble.

I agree with you there, Lyn. What I saw a lot of was that discipline, whatever kind, wasn't carried through at home if there was a problem at school. Maybe the parents just weren't around enough or were too tired to deal with it.

I do not agree with spanking...I was brought up with being spanked, not often I was pretty well behaved, but I knew....i just feel there are other ways around.....now that being said, I'm a full time mom, I work full time, and I have a 4 year old and 17 month old. I'm on my own. STBX has them 4 days out of the month that's it, I'm on my own the rest of the time. So I am the one that sets the rules and does the punishment (time outs, taking away toys etc etc) my girls have a level or respect for me, I run a tight ship and I can give them a look and they know not to fuck with mama....there is no hitting or spanking involved in that respect... period....

I'd spank this kid if he was mine!!

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I disagree. I don't believe in spanking at all. I think all it teaches children is that hitting solves problems. I think it would be effective if used as "discipline" but very few parents use except when they are extremely mad. Spanking when not in control of your emotions will lead to child abuse. I find taking away of priviledges such as toys, tv, etc. a more effective form of discipline.

I spanked but for the serious stuff. My 2 year old tried to run in the street in front of a car. I grabbed him, spanked him and he was in bed for the night. He never did that again. It was for something that could kill them or hurt someone else.

I wanted to spank a police officer once. LOL My 18 year old daughter was a freshman in college at the time. She had some drinks at a party and a college officer was carding the kids on the street on their way to their dorms. My daughter got stopped. She was walking and not driving. She showed her older and legal sisters ID and was let go. 3 hours later the police showed up at her dorm to arrest her for showing a fake ID. They charged her with two felonies. What a pain in the ass. The money I had to spend to hire lawyers etc. They even shackled her. Imagine this 5'8" 115 lb beautiful girl transferred to a county jail for that.

Funny, sb :) I work in a store in the kids department and that is SO TRUE!

And the fact that you use "ass whuppin'" in a statement regarding discipline of children makes me laugh. Spanking may be legal but it isn't right, I'm sure a million psychiatrists would agree.

Sorry people, but spamking Is necc. When used to discipline. If that kid was mine and he pulled that shit in a store like that.. Oh its straight to the bathroom, for a sit down!

Nope......I would never hit my kid.

That saying I do know how to make sure if he does know he did something wrong he has to pay a price for it. No television, games, missing an outing with friends or me. I treat him like I would want to be treated.

I usually ask him what he thought he did wrong and why he did it. Most times he's pretty clear on what he did. I also ask him what he thinks maybe a fair punishment.I consider what he says and then I let him know what he maybe losing if this is needed. Most times I really don't have to do this since he's a pretty good kid and I don't sweat the small stuff. He know he's really in trouble if I tell him we have to have a dinner date to talk. This is only happened twice and I always sit eye level with him when we talk. He may hate me sometimes but that's too bad. I always tell him I love him when we talk.

Sometimes I get upset ( I am not prefect) and then he always know Mommy has a short time out to think ..

I think the next obnoxious person should be spanked. I mean, if it's used to justify disciplining for a behavior than I should be able to spank the chic at WalMart who was rude, or the guy who cut me off in traffic, or how about the Postal worker who after eight years still can't deliver my mail right. I bet a good "ass whoopin" would put her in line quickly.

ugh...someone just had to go there. Why the hell not....we could just bring back the public cainings like they do over in the far east (Like that American kid that got caught doing mischief in some other country got). Why the hell not? It would be a good deterrant, right?

Kids and adults function differently. Teenagers are in a class of all their own. It isn't proper to spank a teenager or an adult but younger kids may need it from time to time.

I was spanked and I knew when I acted out it was coming and it did control me to a certain extent.

I have never spanked my kids and they are well behaved, but, there is one time I would have.

Kids these days have very little respect and I cannot stand being around most peoples kids as they all do seem like royal brats. The way society is handling children is a mess, they are treated like adults yet do not hold or understand the values and experience.

Spanking should not be illigal but frowned on. Some kids need to be spanked to get the hint as saying I will take your toy away doesn't always work.

As for the people saying I wouldn't lay a hand on my child, no one is talking about beating your kids senseless, its a spanking not a jail house fight. There is a difference.

Well, sometimes it seems that is the only way to deal with the kids, because nothing else seem to work. But, no, I do not believe in spanking, I am not going as far as to make it ilegal, but I do recomend other methods. Nany 911 has awsome suggestions. So, it is not the kid, but the circumstances that influence the behavior. We should have a "No spanking day" and keep it for spanking for pleasure only.

I think to each their own. As long as the child is not being beaten or abused, whatever works and you raise healthy, happy, well balanced, respectful, productive kids...then go for it.

If however you do NOT spank your kids, and they are rambunctious, disrespectful or otherwise poorly behaved....they will get their spanks in other more harsh ways later in life. And you will be the only one to blame.