MHA: Doug, by the time he has umpteen million "ban the asshole" calls, FINALLY gets him off the board, could be handled with a person that is personally involved in the inappropriate posting. Someone that has witnessed the bashing, or whatever.
She's invisible! She's just watching over us, that's all! She, essentially taking over Doug's job!
I don't think she'd let the discussion by SuseQ and BigBeeper go as far as it did!
For that, we lost another member.
We need CONSTANT monitoring!

Ps--evewryone I posted this in the thank you for being you post, but I really meant it for this one. I was going to reply to two posts, and replied to the wrong one. I do really need to take a whole weekend off of the boards. Moderators or not, I think there should be more than one person who moderates. I whole heartedly agree in team members. I think everyone in a team has something to give. =) I also don't think everyone is inherantly good. That is a load of pure cow manuer!


Echoed: if you have a problem, then you take it up with me, and not the whole board please. You in fact were in denial And I quote:

"But I still think trying to blame someones suicide on what was said on here is a little iresponsible."

Emotional abuse hurts. The affect of it is very serious. Someone's suicide can very well be blamed on someone elses' behavior. I can and will speak my mind whenever I feel the need to call someone on a statement. If you feel that I was being a little to blunt, then fine. But the truth is: emotional abuse hurts, and can be considered the cause of someone else's suicide. My brother committed suicide because my brother's ex told him that she didn't want him to ever be able to see his kids when he really was there finanically for his kids, and he really did love them. Even CYS said they didn't have a problem if he got to see his kids. That must say something, if not a little bit. Yes, he was on disability, and yes he was bipolar. But for her to pass judgement on my brother like that. She repeatedly called my brother a failure. Yes, he was an alcoholic who self medicated. But, he wasn't a failure! I loved him. He committed suicide because of her emotional abuse. My brother was a somebody! He stood up for me against all of my peers who bullied me for no reason at all! He mentioned to many girls that he won't continue to be around them if they were going to continue to beat me up. I was abused every day of my freaking life when I was little. I was passed around by three different men in my family. I was sexually abused and raped by my child's father. How dare you tell me I don't have any compassion! You don't know me! I don't know what you suffered in your lifetime. But, I know what emotional abuse is. And, I know you're in denial if you think that it doesn't cause suicide, that other people's words don't matter! You're wrong! And, I will call you on it every time!

MHA, I totally disagree with you on your post:

"When we're in a good space, someone's antagonistic and abusive behaviors may make us mad as hell, but won't typically drive someone to make a suicide attempt."

Emotional abuse hurts. My mom used to tell me I was a failure every day for four years. I finally hit the age 18, and ran myself in front of a semi truck. My cousin pulled me out. God Bless her soul. On another note, who is she to judge who wants out of this life. I agree that there should be suicidal hotlines, and people who talk to others when they are suicidal. However, ur saying that my experience wasn't legit when you say that other people's words can't cause someone to commit suicide

Hateful words=suicidal tendencies=suicidal tendendices lead to suicide. I know you're an advocate and all, but words can cause someone to cut just as much as words can cause someone to attempt suicide.

I'm still stuck on the dual diagnosis thing. Because I am dually diagonsed maybe even triply diagnosed, so that means I have a personality disorder?

I find that hard to believe. But then I could just be doing my antisocial behavior again??

GRRRRA%###****$%^ opps I slipped :^)

This board is VERY INFLUENTIAL in the lives of BP members. If you don't realize that, you're an idiot. It's existence is dependant on the support that we give. Again, if you don't realize that... you're an idiot!
We need to continue helping people and doing it in a efficient manner! We don't need trolls or members whose soul purpose is to disrupt that progress. We need to be organized and insightful. I think we need someone to upheld that condition.

Again, this is one we're just not going to agree on.

SimonCross -- Dual dx is chemical dependency and a mental illness. Comorbid dx is more than one mental health dx. Hope that clearifies things.

And BPPrincess, never did I minimize your experiences. You misread what I said. I too have PTSD -- My past wasn't rosey either. At no time did I say emotional abuse doesn't hurt and isn't a problem. The situation you just described about your life is truly tragic...and it was repeated long term abuse.

Please read what you quoted again, first of all I said "typically". That means there are exceptions to every rule. And, on the board, we're not talking about years of tolerating abuse. We're talking about days or God forbid weeks.

We're on the same team here. Please don't misread or misinterpret what I said. I think the whole Suze thing is tragic. I'm one of the umpteen million who have reported the asshole. And I hope to heck he's gone soon.

But we're on the same team here. We want a board that functions well and is supportive. I didn't discount your experiences, mine, and not Suze's either.

MT??? Have you just called me an idot?

MHA: Wouldn't it be convienent and appropriate if we reported abusive behavior to a advocate and let her/him decide if Doug should hear about it? Plus, he/she would have more impact on Doug's decision than to try it ourselves? Like... who are WE? Doug, no doubt, just considers us nobodies! We need a representative! Complain to that person, and don't bother Doug with multiple complaints! It sounds VERY logical to me. But, like you said... we may not agree. I respect your decision.
Huggers.

i think i have an antisocial personality disorder cuz i always feel like isolating myself from others and never talking to anybody i wish i knew how to communicate with people real well but i just don't know how i feel like i am never gonna recover from my antisocial ways

I have some experience being a moderator. I was chosen because I threatened a lawsuit against a website that was very "one sided" in its postings. Basically, they were deleting any posts that had positive things to say about someone and allowing all the negative posts to remain. When a member of the general public or a potential sponsor saw the forum they were given a false impression about this person. That was wrong. The end result was they ended up with several moderators so that opposing viewpoints were represented.

MHA does having Comorbid DX mean you have a personality disorder. I am a full blown drug addict and an alcoholic, with OCD and BD1?

I am just getting ready to make some business cards and I want to totally fill them up with my various acheivements like Doctors and Lawyers.

Reply #34 Simon: If the shoe fits wear it, talk to your therpist about that, I can't help you.

I'm saying the personalities go hand in hand, and I am pretty sure that all of those trolls probably display those personalities. I am not referencing to you in any way.

I want to chime in about Echoes comments. The world is a harsh place. This site allows us to connect with others who share our difficulties but I also think it is a place where people such as BP16 can practice communicating and learn how to deal with Trolls. We would be doing people a diservice to try and protect them from all the speed bumps in life. I read a story after Columbine that indicated many of these kids went violent because they had very little experience with conflict. Conflict is a part of life and coping skills are necessary. I think this is a good place for that (in moderation of course!). I have no opinion on the moderator situation but I am assuming we could report the mod if we feel they are abusing their powers??

Thank you, MHA! I've been trying to stress the point of what DUAL dx is....chemical abuse/addiction and emotional or phychiatric illness.

Simon?
There numerous disorders both emotional and mental as there are different types of chemical dependancies. I am dual diagnosed.....alcohol abuse AND BP, WITH PTSD, panic/anxiety disorder. My intelligence and common sence are NOT affected by either when it comes down to it, but I am dual.

Simon -- No, someone could have an anxiety disorder and bipolar for instance. The second dx does not need to be a personality disorder...it is in some cases, but that is not what it means.