So now I am finally done with everything I think I'm going to have to do on my side. Spoke with pastor and he understands the gravity of the situation however ironically he's actually dealing with a adult perpetrator situation as well. He's upping the adult to child ratio at the child's group, making a policy that no children can ever be left alone even together, and praying about our concerns for after the group is let out. I suspect that because of the fact that he is not causing this family to leave that they will be losing at least a couple families from this children's group. I called CPS about the three other children who were only physically abused and did not have enough personal information for them to open a case on them specifically. One of them actually had moved to a different area and when I called their CPS hotline they said it wasn't enough to do anything with unless I wanted to report it to the police (she tried to throw me the "same age playing around" line). I did however get to add on these extra cases of perpetration onto the monster child's file. So now I am done! I did decide not to send an email to our Detective seeing as how he has not even responded to our phone messages about sending in the form for our children to be able to qualify for special counseling. I don't want to bug him more than I already have. But at least all this information is now on the CPS radar. I did speak with the other mom who in the beginning of our conversation struggled to grasp the concept of how her child could have been abused by this monster boy. Eventually, she grew to an acceptance stage after realizing that even the couple times her daughter went to their house was enough for something to happen. She also started processing things that she remembered seeing that didn't feel right at the time and she didn't understand until now. She still attends the same homeschool group as the monster child'support family. I have told both moms to create their own Circles of friends that are safe and at this time to not contact me anymore for the sake of their child's case. They were both agreeable to that. The other mom of the child who had been sexually perpetrated on I handed over to one of her better friends, who is also my friend. She's going to start the conversation with her friend and give her my phone number if she wants to talk to me about more details. This has been quite The Learning Experience maneuvering the system. One part that I am very excited to share, is that I did receive another phone call about the other child from CPS to verify the information that I had told them originally on the hotline. She shared with me inadvertently that " I think we have an idea of how we're going to move forward with this child." And apparently this monster child is becoming pretty well known in the CPS system. I'm just hoping something is done to help him help himself and stop hurting others because obviously his mom is not doing that. And in regards to this Children's Group, the big brother that I thought was going to watch him during his class time has not been doing so the last two weeks so this mother "watching him like a hawk" is not really happening. I feel a burden removed from my shoulders and just hope that nothing else is disclosed that I have to let CPS know about. ;) DONE! Ready to MOVE ON with our lives! :)

So I spoke with the last mom today who just so happens to be an ex-social worker and an child-rape-victim herself. Oh, my heart BROKE for her! Her husband is a Marine and we joked about it was a good thing that they had just recently moved to another state! lol She's really nervous about sharing with him and I'm so glad that our friend, who's closer to her, started to talk with her because when I called I jumped right in and she was ready to listen and accept the news. She plans on getting her daughter straight into a therapist so she'll disclose to them and an inter-state investigation will be opened. She also agreed to not be in contact with me for the good of their legal case but that she'd still pass along short messages through our mutual friend like "investigation begun" "she disclosed" etc. I am SO thankful for that!

Today my daughter shared that she knows of 2 other victims who also used to go to the children's group...a boy & a girl. She's very scared to tell about what happened to them...that makes me nervous seeing as how she's already shared about 2 girls who were sexually assaulted and one who also had a knife used on her! The boys was vial and evil in his obsession with sexuality! And she also confirmed my susipicion all along that his little sister, the one who needs "girl time" with other little girl friends, is a part of this sick and twisted fantasy world by asking to watch, telling her brother what to do, and definitely participating in incest. NO WONDER why she won't disclose what has happened to her!! She's also guilty!

Anyways, I thought whoever is following this topic might want to hear the update. I still plan on sharing the dialogue I used when speaking with the other moms...when I have more time on my hands. Don't give up hope! Keep fighting for the truth to come out!

Alright ladies,

I'm sure you won't be shocked when I tell you yet ANOTHER victim, a boy, (per my then 3 year old's eye-witness testimony), can be added to the ever-growing list of monster boy's conquests. Not to my knowledge a sexual abuse victim but a physical abuse victim none-the-less. "He slapped him in the face, punched him in the stomach and kicked him in the legs after (the children's group last year) was let out." I've also learned through the grape vine some interesting developments about the perp's family:

-The oldest boy HAS moved out of the home and is distancing himself from his adoptive family as much as possible. This means that my husband might actually get in contact with him sooner than later because he wanted to know that this kid was taking steps to better himself instead of hide in the den of lies. (He used to be his mentor.)

-I have been told that the monster boy's family does not plan on coming back to the children's group next year...I need to confirm this before talking my husband into allowing our children to return to the kid's group...but the reason they aren't is kinda a cop out: they plan on moving out of the country! I'm just hoping that all these little new cases that are out there will pan out and that justice will be served before that boy moves out of America and grows up in a country that can actually provide him a worse opportunity to hide his evil, possibly allowing him to turn into a serial rapist or worse a serial murderer! Heaven forbid their family returned to America to see family and more horrific things happened because they were never dealt with as a child! This moving thing isn't new...my ex-friend had always talked about moving but wasn't sure when they'd move.

I'm waiting to hear back from the most recent mom I shared the info with to confirm if she wants to call CPS on her own (since there's no rush because her child is not in harm's way) or if I should because I definitely want to add this to monster boy's case history! I'll let you know what happens! :

Report it
Read about the NY State case re Bedford Hills Principal.
Although you are not a mandated reporter, these rules for mandated reporters exist due to ethics.
It is your ethical duty to report this even if you know that the mom does too.
Willful failure to report includes even waiting more than 24 hours.
You report these things and quickly because even though this particular child is safe at present, it certainly appears that no other children exposed to this child is safe without proper supervision and resources in place.
Good luck!

http://law.justia.com/cases/new-york/other-courts/2011/2011-ny-slip-op-21372.html

96percent,
I had planned on making sure it gets added to monster boy's case file BUT one of the reasons there is no rush is because of the long weekend. CPS and the family crime unit do not work weekends or holidays. By telling the mom this past Friday night, I gave their family 3 days to talk to their kid and verify if it's true. Also, I know that CPS would be sent to their home and the boy's parents have court dates coming up so this way they have time to prepare their lives for that invasion. Both parents went to jail for a white-collar crime (I believe check fraud) about 7 years ago.

I do not feel that I am a mandated reporter but my moral duty to do what is right and protect the city has played a huge part in why I have gone about doing everything I've done this past 10 months. Don't worry...that aspect is covered.

Good gal Warriormama!
Even if this mom reports, you may consider still reporting too.
You never know what anyone is going to say and it's all kept behind closed doors.
:-)

So, just as I had suspected, it was technically rough-housing as interpreted by the other boy. I wanted to make sure because I know monster boy would "rough house" with a lot of various boys and that is how I always saw it also. My 4 year old was only 2 1/2 at the time so I can see how he would still see rough housing as bad after what he'd dealt with. Anyways, both the mom and (reluctantly but understandingly) I have decided it will not be reported to CPS.

On a positive note, I called the mom of the little girl victim who moved (original to this post) to share some updated info...[2 separate children of mine witnessed the little girl being violently &/or inappropriately abused on the property of the church after the Children's group was let out the year of 2014-2015]...anyways her mom has her set up to see a therapist mid-June and is not telling her daughter anything so that the 1st disclosure is with a therapist so it will hopefully hold up in court! We are PRAYING for the truth to come out; both of us! I also explained why our case did not go to court...she was confused about that if it was so serious.

My middle 2 have been doing "exposure therapy" at the property of the church and remembering various things that they or others went through. We're trying to help them gain back their power over this very local piece of property that we visit to play at the park, drive by frequently, walk near to get to the farmstand, etc. So hopefully more and more will come out!

Thanks for praying along with us that the TRUTH comes out! :)

Good advocacy, WarriorMomX5!

You said: "I also explained why our case did not go to court...she was confused about that if it was so serious." Boy, if only everyone understood that this was actually the NORM -- for one legal technicality or another, most victims never receive the justice they deserve.