Parents of estranged adult children Community Group
One or more of our adult children walked out of our lives and never looked back.
A few weeks ago my oldest daughter told me that during the past 2 years she and her sister discussed their childhoods with one another and a therapist and figured out they were 'abused. '
This abuse looked like being sent back to re-do a chore, or occasionally being yelled at for 'hours' if they did something wrong (I worked 60-70 hours per week, so this is not likely).
Also, they are upset about myself and their father trying to protect them during c19 times, saying we 'shoved our opinions down their throats 24/7.' The two have no children of their own and zero insight into what it is like to place another's life before their own as a parent does.
As a result, my youngest daughter speaks to either of us only occasionally (holidays). The oldest - has 'decided to give me a second chance.' (Not sure what that's about, but it basically means I talk about only what she wants and any deviation = her becoming overly emotional and accusing me of 'terrorizing' her or being a 'narcissist.')
Not what I expected, and I've been completely unaware of any of this until recently. I am devastated.
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I know this is stupid, but after not being able to find a job after graduation for almost two years, I ended up just taking an online teaching job because I couldn't find anything in my field. I was trying to get out of teaching and I feel so devastated. I felt this crushing feeling when I signed the paperwork and when I was in the meetings. I know that sounds so dramatic but it is how I felt. It...
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Woke up feeling very emotional and about to clock in at my place of employment. And can't place it all in writing but not been a good experience with my store manager or his boss. Defamation of my character is a concern. I've been losing appetite and weight. Trying to perform at work to keep myself from hospitalization as a result of toxic masculinity.


Went on to make further allegations:
Because I sometimes bought clothing that was too big and then gave it to them, instead (they were larger in size), it made them feel terrible and this was abuse.
Because I frequently said I was fat (I suffered from anorexia as a pre-teen, and body dysmorphia), and was in fact smaller than they were, this was abuse.
Currently - there are more conditions of estrangement - because I am now "always negative and critical of others," THIS is why my youngest will not speak to me. (Interesting that they are negative and critical of me, yet that is acceptable.)
I mean...it doesn't end. They are SO intolerant of any behavior other than their own, with zero insight or concern as to why someone might have a different thought, or opinion, or behavior. Navigating this is confusing, and heartbreaking.
One thing I learned was to accept that each member of the family has differing viewpoints. I stopped trying to change them and just worked on changing me. I work on, not worked on, changing me. I realized "they must change" is a recipe for disaster.
It is unhealthy to be focused on how others must change and sometimes we get this jab from our adult kids. They tell us how we must change. We feel so hurt we think about how they must change. When the constant criticism doesn't end, then we have to do something different within ourselves.
I think you would benefit from taking a break from these intense conversations. They are not going to change by you arguing or engaging in this stuff. You are correct that they are intolerant and not interested in your opinion.
Some parents think they must be nice and listen to all this constant criticism because many experts say we should. Other parents think they can out argue and try to make the adult child be reasonable. But illogical or irrational people can't be forced to be logical or reasonable. And we parents might become the illogical or irrational people after all this arguing about our faults - I mean how much can one person take?
I've been reading Bill Eddy's books about high conflict people. These high conflict people must have a target of blame. Nice people often become the target of blame because they don't recognize the patterns of abuse. I highly recommend his books. I have a lot of high conflict personalities in my extended family. I have two EC that are this way.
We do not have to defend ourselves. Sometimes we are better off not engaging or if we do, not getting defensive. It won't change them and only hurts our feelings, makes us depressed. Don't allow yourself to be JADEd: don't justify, argue, defend, explain.
Sometimes our kids just want to tell us something and be listened to. Their viewpoint is their viewpoint. We have to accept this as reality or it eats us alive inside our hearts and minds. We are not accepting that they are "right", we are accepting that they have different viewpoints than ourselves. We don't have to JADE or defend ourselves.
And of course, a blamer as I call them, will be pissed off when we don't engage so it is totally no win. But you have to protect your heart, step back, take a break, and gain new perspective on this. I had to realize I could not make my EC love me in the way I wanted to be loved. That was a tough thing.