Healthy Sex Support Group
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Lastatthebuffet
I know this is the Healthy Sex support group, and impotence and senior dating have their own groups, but I wish I'd known more about this before I was blindsided by it with my partner. It's been a massive struggle for both of us. I hope that sharing this might be some use. If you're a 'pass the sick bucket' type at the idea of over 50s having sex you might want to step away now.
I was 52 and my partner was 62 when we met. I was very naive about impotence before I met him. I thought it was something that happened to a few, very old men, at least aged 80 or older. The wheelchair-bound husband in Lady Chatterlys Lover was impotent so his wife was unfaithful with the young gardener. I saw articles about 90 year olds becoming fathers. A middle aged friend's father was 75 and in sitting a wheelchair when she was conceived with his much younger girlfriend. My own father told me when he was about 70 that he 'could keep going for much longer now' and that my mum 'didn't seem to mind'! All I'd heard was that it could take older men a bit longer before they could do it for a second time! Even now when I know so much more I'm confused by statistics that say '40% of men over 40', '50% of men over 60', '60% over 75' when in real life some men say that 'lots of over 70s can still get it up' and others say 'in his 60s he's lucky he can get it up at all'.
Aged 63 my partner's words to me were 'I sometimes have a bit of a problem, but that's normal for men my age' and in my innocence I smilingly said it's ok, we can do other things. I had no concept of what that would mean and the toll it takes on you both when you both really do want real sex and it goes soft AGAIN, or he gets it in and it goes soft within 30 seconds, no orgasm involved.
People have strange concepts regarding Viagra too! They think it actually gives men the desire even if they aren't interested. They think that it gives them a continuous erection for hours and hours even when they aren't having any sexual contact. You see jokes on TV of men walking round with a hardon at work because their mates spiked their coffee. It doesn't do that, it doesn't work on its own, the men still need some stimulation to get hard, and they'll still go soft after sex or if the stimulation stops. All Viagra does is make the erection last while sex or stimulation is happening by stopping the blood leaving the penis. And even that won't work if the man doesn't want sex.
I wish we were all more open and better informed about impotence and its treatment, and that it didn't have this stigma attached to it. Then men wouldnt feel like failures or be too embarrassed to get it checked out by the doctor, as so often there is an undiagnosed medical reason causing it. Then women fresh back in the dating pool in their 50s, anticipating the same 'new relationship' sex we'd had in the past, wouldn't be quite so blindsided by things having changed so much. Lots of older women are more interested in the friendship side of relationships, but lots of women do still like sex, especially as part of a new relationship. My experience of younger men was that they were ever ready and unstoppable, and that made me feel attractive and sexy. I wasn't prepared at all for how old and frumpy I would feel just because a man didn't get an erection with me. Too much pressure on the man, but deep ingrained attitudes.
My girlfriends are a many-and-varied mixture, some married 30 years, some single and dating, some single and not dating, some living with partners and some like me in a live-out relationship, but we're all in our 50s and early 60s. When this subject comes up as it often does (no, chaps, contrary to popular belief, women do still think and talk about sex a lot), we say how unprepared some of us were for the changes. It's the friends in the long term marriages who seem to cope better, maybe because familiarity leads to boredom and because it's been a more gradual process. One of my 59 year old single friends still says it's all a matter of the woman's technique, and that no man would need Viagra with her! But she's been on her own for 10 years!
We all need to be more prepared for what nature might throw at us, I know I wish I had been
I was 52 and my partner was 62 when we met. I was very naive about impotence before I met him. I thought it was something that happened to a few, very old men, at least aged 80 or older. The wheelchair-bound husband in Lady Chatterlys Lover was impotent so his wife was unfaithful with the young gardener. I saw articles about 90 year olds becoming fathers. A middle aged friend's father was 75 and in sitting a wheelchair when she was conceived with his much younger girlfriend. My own father told me when he was about 70 that he 'could keep going for much longer now' and that my mum 'didn't seem to mind'! All I'd heard was that it could take older men a bit longer before they could do it for a second time! Even now when I know so much more I'm confused by statistics that say '40% of men over 40', '50% of men over 60', '60% over 75' when in real life some men say that 'lots of over 70s can still get it up' and others say 'in his 60s he's lucky he can get it up at all'.
Aged 63 my partner's words to me were 'I sometimes have a bit of a problem, but that's normal for men my age' and in my innocence I smilingly said it's ok, we can do other things. I had no concept of what that would mean and the toll it takes on you both when you both really do want real sex and it goes soft AGAIN, or he gets it in and it goes soft within 30 seconds, no orgasm involved.
People have strange concepts regarding Viagra too! They think it actually gives men the desire even if they aren't interested. They think that it gives them a continuous erection for hours and hours even when they aren't having any sexual contact. You see jokes on TV of men walking round with a hardon at work because their mates spiked their coffee. It doesn't do that, it doesn't work on its own, the men still need some stimulation to get hard, and they'll still go soft after sex or if the stimulation stops. All Viagra does is make the erection last while sex or stimulation is happening by stopping the blood leaving the penis. And even that won't work if the man doesn't want sex.
I wish we were all more open and better informed about impotence and its treatment, and that it didn't have this stigma attached to it. Then men wouldnt feel like failures or be too embarrassed to get it checked out by the doctor, as so often there is an undiagnosed medical reason causing it. Then women fresh back in the dating pool in their 50s, anticipating the same 'new relationship' sex we'd had in the past, wouldn't be quite so blindsided by things having changed so much. Lots of older women are more interested in the friendship side of relationships, but lots of women do still like sex, especially as part of a new relationship. My experience of younger men was that they were ever ready and unstoppable, and that made me feel attractive and sexy. I wasn't prepared at all for how old and frumpy I would feel just because a man didn't get an erection with me. Too much pressure on the man, but deep ingrained attitudes.
My girlfriends are a many-and-varied mixture, some married 30 years, some single and dating, some single and not dating, some living with partners and some like me in a live-out relationship, but we're all in our 50s and early 60s. When this subject comes up as it often does (no, chaps, contrary to popular belief, women do still think and talk about sex a lot), we say how unprepared some of us were for the changes. It's the friends in the long term marriages who seem to cope better, maybe because familiarity leads to boredom and because it's been a more gradual process. One of my 59 year old single friends still says it's all a matter of the woman's technique, and that no man would need Viagra with her! But she's been on her own for 10 years!
We all need to be more prepared for what nature might throw at us, I know I wish I had been
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I remember how surprised and affected I was when I first realised that my partner can't tell any more if he's hard or not. I'd assumed that men know if they have an erection, but he has to ask me or feel it himself to know what his penis is doing. He can think he's rock hard when it's completely soft and vice versa. Somehow that was one of the most upsetting things of all, to realise he still has all the same feelings inside, I'd assumed that desire declined as ability dwindled.
I also had no idea that men could ejaculate without an erection. I remember how I jumped the first time it happened! I hadn't even known that was possible, yet I've perfected the technique and now it's part of everyday life.
I probably wouldn't know what to do with a fully functioning penis attached to a man who takes the lead any more. My jaw would probably drop open in shock lol!
it's the nerve stimulation that does it, especialy when the 'taint' or also called perinium is stimulated.That's where the prostrate muscle is that helps push the ejaculation juices out of he penis.
.Lastathebuff. is your hubby on medications or have any disease or ailments that affect his nerves?
If yes than that could be why he lost some of the 'natural feelings'.
Heart problems, nueropathy,Fibromyalgia ect. can affect the feeling of ' up or down'.
I joke that he wore it out before I met him, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was actually some truth to it as he used to be able to last a very long time. I've read that delayed ejaculation can eventually wear out the valves that hold the blood in
slightly high bp shouldn't be the problem.
The joke about him wearing it out in my experience is a
only joke. B/c I can last a long time & have for abou35 yrs.other than a few unexpected quicky's ., Now the rest of my body wears out 1st
b/c of many injuries.
But mostly I have to stop b/c of my wife's back pain.
95% of the time I don't ejaculate now,(for the past 5yrs?) But keeping it up's not a prob. even though I was quite 'busy' most of my life.
The only thing I've read/heard of damaging the valves or penile muscles is having some time of injury or damage done by excessive abuse to the penis.. (accidently pulling out while having intercourse & slamming it into her bone) bending it too far while erect ect.....Zipping it into pants zippers...
Happy to say, had a movie date with honey and, as soon as we snuggled, I felt her smooth skin and fluffy hair...suffice to say this kid's erection works just fine! Now if only she liked me the way I like her...we'd have some serious romps...she likes me as a friend.
It must sound weird that I'm actually a bit nervous about it now? He got some when we first met and since they ran out nearly 5 years ago I've been the one who's wanted him to get more.
But now I'm actually a bit worried I won't be able to keep up with him and that I'll disappoint him! Or that he won't enjoy it with me any more! Or that it won't be as enjoyable as I remember it, maybe I've built it up in my memory to be something it wasn't!!
He gets them free now so he couldn't use the horrendous cost as an excuse any more - that's been his reason for the last 5 years! However, now that cost is out of the way, I think stage 2 in his plan to humour me over this whole thing is going to kick in - fitting in the time! We opened them up and I said right, well shall we try them out? He replied mm yes that's the problem!
He says the doc said its probably best not to take them more than once a week and we mostly only see each other at weekends. He plays in bands and works most Saturday nights, not finishing til early hours of the morning.
This weekend (a 3 day holiday weekend) he's having to work Friday night and Sunday night. It's pretty tiring so on the days where he has worked the previous night, or is going to be working that evening he 'has to pace himself' and 'take it easy' during the day - translation - pottering round the garden, a bit of shopping, but no marathon 4 hr sex sessions with the little blue pill :(
He's playing Friday and Saturday next week so same story.
So you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink :(
I know, I know, he was playing music for 40 years before he met me. I know if I want someone with more time for me I need to find someone else. This is just a rant over the realisation that after waiting 5 years for him to finally get more pills, my little mental image of us skipping to the chemist then putting everything else on hold for a few hours was just a fools hope.
I'm sorry to read & say that..
You're suffering with what most men have the 'stigma' of ..
The desire for the 1 they love but no response from the other...
Proviron mesterolone also increased my libido , but not available everywhere , ask your doctor