Family Issues Support Group
Family issues is a huge range that go from minor conflict to major misbehaviour and even abuse on the part of individual members of the family occur. Whether you feel you are in a dysfunctional family or you're dealing with a very specific issue, this is the place to talk about it and find others who might be going through the same thing.
sweetpea222
some time ago i posted about when i booked a holiday not knowing it was the same time as my o/h's "traditional" family holiday.(i can never go as have our dogs and cant afford pet sitter) this caused alot of backlash towards me from my o/h's mother accusing me of booking our holiday the same time on purpose etc. their holiday starts on the friday as ours starts on the saturday. we have had alot of expensives lately ,i have already paid for our holiday out of my own money and have asked my o/h to at least pay for the petrol at which she moaned at. then i saw she had wrote her families holiday on the calender on the friday. thought it was strange . then i'm just chatting about getting the car checked over the day before our holiday,tyre pressures ,fluid levels etc before our long trip and getting it packed up ready for a early start the next day when she says i'll have to do it either the day before or when she gets back from visiting her family on their holiday on the friday which will be about 7pm. i'm annoyed because this trip to visit her family at the holiday camp will cost her about 150 because she insists on giving all her neices,nephew,cousins,2nd cousins 5 each spending money,then theres the petrol,the cost of entry to this holiday camp yet she told me after she moaned about me saying i had paid for the holiday she could pay for the petrol she hadn't the money. her mother had rang saying my o/h could go and see them on the friday i had clearly told her we would be to busy getting ready for our own holiday and there was lots to do yet she still asked my o/h. we have one holiday a year yet her family have two or three holidays a year . i'm really annoyed and upset my o/h doesn't do a darn thing to help so it will be left to me to get the car ready etc ,i don't want to pack the car on the thursday as things as clothing will get damp and on the friday i know she wont be back by 7pm . we have to arrive at our holiday place by mid day to pick up the key so that will mean a very early start so will need to be in bed early. plus my o/h will have spent most of her money that could had gone towards the petrol. i know this sounds trival but it's really more than just this,my o/h will not ever say no to her family ,what they want they get.
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You may want to talk to her about couples counseling if that's an option for you.
I think it's important that a person always take care of issues with 'their' family not the partner as all it does is cause resentment and the struggle begins
Does your partner see these things as a problem?...If not therein lies the problem.... She loves her family and it doesn't 'sound' to me like you live close is that the case??.. Or does she see them very often?
I think it's your partner that you need to work this out with... Big hug...x
I guess my question is: Do you want to leave? It doesn't sound like your partner is changing. Or maybe you just want to vent?
Everyone is a mixture of stuff we like and stuff we don't. Maybe the relationship is worth it for other issues. But I'm not there, I don't know.
In any case, I sympathize. Hugs,
Patti
that is until her mother kicked off reminding her that was the dates they all have their "traditional" holiday camp holiday. then it was hell for a while being accused by the pair of them of booking that week on purpose.
i tried to discuss our relationship tonight ,in my relationships i have always put my partner first . but my partner told me tonight she comes with baggage her friends and family although she has few friends now days.
i have no problem with sometimes a partner putting their family first thats part of life ,but i do have a big problem when a partner puts her family first everytime.
she went on about all the things she has brought me lately but i don't buy her anything.but i told her i am not materialistic,offering to wash up,little things like that would mean more to me.
then she said she showed me more affection than i do her,i was honest with her and tried explaining that i have built up alot of resentment and i don't feel like showing affection.
in my mind i have explained many times what she does make me feel hurt and upset .
I'm wondering if you'll ever get what you hope for in this relationship... She keeps the barriers going by not including you with those she considers family and that would hurt a lot... I'm thinking you are projecting the anger onto her family when it really should be directed at her... She could include you in all of these things if she wanted to
I'm not trying to hurt you by writing this .. Maybe you should weigh the pro's and con's... It doesn't sound like she's going to change... Big hug... xo
i met my current partner as i was breaking up with my ex. my current partner would say how my ex knew my mental health triggers so would use this to trigger me.
but i have countless times explained to my partner that her attitude is upsetting and hurtful.but everytime she turns it round on me. she never says like i would "lets work this out together".
during the phone conversation i overheard with her mother i heard my partner say she would make sure i didn't arrange anything on her family birthdays and this traditional family holiday again.then was asking her mum family birthdays and was writing them on our calendar. then her mum was telling her ,her other sister was planning a birthday party for her 65th birthday my partner said that was a good idea.
thing is her mums birthday is not many days before my partners and i had already brought tickets for a show for my partners birthday as a surprise. and i think this party will be on the saturday the same day i got tickets for this show. so i left it a few weeks and told my partner i had got us tickets for this show. she was excited about it,but didn't realize it may well be the same day as her mums party. but here is my problem ,i know she won't want to cancel going to this show but i do think she will want to rush back to her mums party which will cause a row because i have planned a nice meal after the show and staying overnight in a hotel as a treat.
then no doubt i will have her mother accusing me of booking this show on purpose. i'm sick of her family and the way they think they should come before me and my partner thinking that way to.
when a person says they come with baggage to me that means they have children. not sisters.nieces and nephews etc. most of us have family ,most of us wouldnt describe them as baggage.
i am buying the house we live in. her mother has told me her daughter should not pay towards things like decorating etc as it's my house. but just pay her half of the bills and food.
when we have talked about marriage she just wanted everything to suit her family. a cheap venue with family rooms that are cheap for her family. can't bring our dogs because her nephew is scared of dogs. can't have a live band she wanted a disco so people can dance. you get the gist of what i'm saying. i told her i did not want her aunt or mother arranging anything as they take over she said i had to let them as that was just what they was like. so after several attempts to discuss getting married i told her i had changed my mind as she would not compromise . anyway it would be a big mistake to even think of getting married especially as she has only just told me she comes with baggage her family.
during one heated discussion she said she had had more relationships than me although that was a good thing,most of her relationships has lasted less than a year. the longest she has had was 7 years but they split up and got back together again in that time.
this ex of her she was with 7 years i have had long conversations with (she was with her about 20 years ago) she told me my partner was just the same with her family and one particular sister could not stand on her own two feet. i told her things hasn't changed this sister still didn't.
as to what i am going to do about this all i'm going to have to think long and hard about,i'm 55 now and still havent found a good relationship,its not like i expect too much,i believe a relationship is a partnership. where most things should be discussed and if there is a problem work through it together . not like when my partner said her aunt had asked her to drive her and two uncles abroad on holiday but she said she would discuss it with me first. i said let me think about it she says she was going to take them anyway despite what i said she only asked me out of curtsy. so what was the point in asking me if she was going anyway?
then to tell me she would take me abroad to the same place when all along she was planning it so she could take her sister and her family with us,so in actual fact making out she wanted to take me was just a excuse so she could take her sister. now she knows her sister is going but with her friend my partner hasnt mentioned taking me ...hmmm .
i only knew what she was planning when i overheard her on the phone talking to her mum saying she was going to keep the locations they went to on this holiday on her sat nav so she could take her sister to the same places. oh boy the row that happened then between us. i put my foot down and told her i wanted it to be just us two that went ,she sniped back ok we would go on our own but she would still be taking her sister at another time.
so you can see what i'm going through i hope. i have never been abroad and my first trip abroad i always thought would be special just my partner and i . her sister has had holidays abroad .
but how do i get it across to my partner that although i dont expect to be put first everytime i do expect that she see's me as a partner who she should consider and before saying yes to her family discuss it with me first but not ignore what i say and do what they or she wants anyway. i will admit i do not want her to go abroad and won't be back for 10 days. had she had given me the choice i would had said i wasn't happy about it and wish she would say no as she knows i have abandonment issues as part of my mental illness.
she says she would have no problem if i wanted to go on holiday and leave her at home but thats not the point i'm not like her.
i first met my partner as just a friend,the relationship i was in was already in tatters,i'll explain . i met my ex on a online chatroom . basically she said she had only slept with two men while confused by her sexuality. but soon after we got together she admitted she had slept with that many men she couldnt remember how many as she was drunk everytime. ok i was shocked but by then i was in love with her. everything was great until she moved in with me ,she changed. suddenly this highly sexual woman hardly ever wanted to be intimate but 3 times a year . but i believed her stream of constant excuses. but then i had to give up work. she said she was not paying to keep my car on the road so i sold it. i could only use her car when she said so. i got paid one benefit which she never let me have any of it as she said it was going towards the bills.
i had been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder but one time when i tried phoning the crisis team in a suicidal state she said she needed the phone to ring her dad.so i used my mobile but she grabbed that off me. so i said we needed couple counselling and if things was no better in a year we was over. but at each counselling session she would use excuses that basically the counceller blew out the water as just that a excuse. so the year went by i was dreadfully unhappy. i got friends with my current partner she was shocked when she came round and saw the way my partner was being with me. to me it was just her being bossy,like calling me into the kitchen to get her a saucepan that was just in the cupboard behind her. shouting at me i had cut the chips wrong.etc my partner now who at the time i had confided in the time she grabbed my mobile stopping me from ringing the crisis team ,and not letting me have any money ,told me she was abusing me.
i couldn't see it,but she rang the vulnerable adults team who i agreed to meet. during the conversation they asked if they could see the texts my partner was sending me ,once they read then they told me it was not safe for me to go home at i was at risk .it was a clear case of mental and financial abuse. but i told them i had to go home i had 4 dogs. i didnt mention anything to my partner for a while. my partner now was coming round more often . then my partner then started really flirting with her,play fighting etc .
now this will sound trival but one day she said she was going to bath one of our dogs she had never bathed them it was always me who had done it. i sat with my now partner downstairs i said to her i bet she comes downstairs with a wet tee shirt no bra. lo and behold she came downstairs saying "look i got a wet tee shirt" . she then started to invite my now partner to stay overnight while she was at work ,we worked out this was because she wanted her there when she came home in the mornings for some weird reason. i had more meeting with the vulnerable adults team who said they would be there to help me but i was not safe at home with my partner. she was purposely triggering my mental illness. then one night while she was at work me and my now partner was talking and it just happened we kissed and things went from there. i dare not tell my then partner ,she continued to try and flirt with my now partner. then two weeks later i told her the truth. she took one of our dogs and would not tell me where i found out too late she had took him to a rehoming center. she stole some of my family antiques which luckily i found packed in her stuff before she got it out the house. i ended up in a mental health respite house. eventually after pressure from the vunerable adults team she agreed to move out . but on the day she was suppose to move out she said she wasnt leaving until it was dark as she could only drive to where she oringnally lived in the dark. darkness fell but she still sat there then started to say she was now too tired to drive and started getting really nasty i was scared so i called the police who was already aware of the situation, she was then escorted from my house. but she just went round our neighbours. i was in fear so we decided to go out into town until she had left altogether a couple of hours later we saw her go by. when we got back we saw that she had actually urinated on one of the bedroom floors,before the police made her leave she had reckoned she had left something upstairs.
so thats the explanation how i got with my current partner while i was still with my ex
we have just had another row in which she has just stormed off to bed just after lunch. again it was over her family. but i'm entitled to my opinion but she didn't like it. i was honest and said i couldnt take to her 22 year old niece and you can't like everyone thats human nature.
it all started when i was reading out our local paper two events was coming up one in our town the other about 40 miles away. she wanted to go i thought great.then she said we could take her 22 year old nice to the one 40 miles away.
i tried explaining nicely that as we rarely go out i would like it to be just us not her family tagging along. but she wasn't understanding me or didn't want to. so i put it another way i couldn't stand being around her niece more than a few hours as i can't forget the way she has been rude and nasty to me a few years ago.i was just being honest.
she called me selfish and said i never want her family with us(hit the nail on the head lol) . but when her niece invites my partner she never invites me along so seriously why would i want to invite her to anything we go to.
i told my partner when we go out i want to go where i please without having to go where they want to go. i've been to places with her sister and niece before and it has been all what they wanted to do and my partner never says oh well we will do what we want to do and meet back somewhere.
the last event we went to with them (had to invite myself as i wasn't asked) was in a seaside town ,after a boring hour looking round this comic con i wanted to look round the shops as i hadnt been there before. but no her sister said she had got some food in for us so we had to go back there. as for the food ,it was a dry old bread roll with cheese in that was it. it was crap about she had got food in for us she just didnt want me to go shopping with my partner.
am i being unreasonable about not wanting to go on outings with her family in tow. even holidays she has suggested wanting them with us.
i wasn't going to tell her i didn't like her niece but she didn't want to listen to me .
no doubt she is upstairs now evaluating our relationship now i dare say i don't like her precious niece
There's nothing unreasonable about your expectations. Every relationship has to be 50-50 or there is no relationship; at least not a mutually happy one anyway.
Your relationship based on what you've posted is more like a 95-5. Your partner is more emotionally involved with her family and is not the slightest bit remorseful in the way either she nor her family treat you. This type of relationship is full of her family's excess baggage. I'd kick all that to the curb if I were you. You deserve so much more but only you can make that decision.
at the moment its very heated here. i'm due to inherit a large cash sum which means most of our benefits stop and all she keeps saying i have cost her 1000 in benefits and is refusing to pay towards anything like bills saying she is keeping the benefits she still will be getting which will be 540 a month to spend on herself as she needs to be independant. i find this totally unreasonable for her to be in this relationship and not pay a penny towards anything.
but like i told her soon one of her benefits is going to be changed over ,basically in the uk everyone who claims disability are being changed to personal independance payments and people are either losing the benefit altogether or get half of what they was getting. i think my partner does not stand much chance of getting this new benefit so then she will only have 240 a month so once she has brought her tobacco and paid her car tax and insurance and petrol she won't have any spare money. so she can hardly come cap in hand to me for extra money after refusing to pay anything towards bills etc while she still getting her disability. also i have told her she either pays for sky tv and the internet or i will cancel it as i dont watch sky tv anyway but she spends all day and night either watching sky tv or playing on her pc.
as i told her if she helped round the house etc and treated me better it would be a different matter but why should i pay to keep her when she contributes zilt . i said if her losing 1000 in benefits meant that much to her she could move out ,all i got was "so you saying we over" not "i dont want us to finish we can work things out" before she met me she owed money to different companies her flat had demand letters that she had just thrown on the floor,yet as she hadnt paid her sky bill her mum then took it out in her name so my partner could still have sky although my partner paid for it not her mum. so really her mum has just encouraged reckless spending the wrong thing to do as my partners bi polar. i found letters from years ago from her mum sending her money because she had got into debt. so little wonder she now expects its my responsibility to keep her.
She finds someone in her life that depends on her emotionally and then she exhausts their resources for as long as she's allowed to. She's on disability from the government yet she's capable to taking all these trips etc.? It's an abuse of social funds meant for others who really require it.
You need to take a good look at yourself and think about what you want from a relationship in the future. Is this person it? It would be settling for less if she were.
Whether you realize it or not, your situation in a sense is abandonment by her. She's not contributing emotionally or financially. I think you are a lot stronger than you think you are and I'd rather get rid of this excess baggage person and live alone than have someone in my life that constantly reminds me of how little I mean to them. This isn't a relationship of any kind. It works for her; she found the person that will support her and put up with her selfish acts and she'll milk that relationship for as long as she's allowed to.
You'll never find that perfect person while your stuck in a relationship such as this. You deserve more than what you've received. Only you can make the changes that you need
these past months have certainly open my eyes ,guess i didn't want to even think that about her. yes i do love her but through experience love alone doesn't make a good relationship.i thought my brother was being nasty when he said get rid of her she is nothing but a leech but she is proving him right.
so now i've got some serious thinking to do . i have borderline personality disorder one of the traits is when unhappy in a relationship starting another relationship before finishing the one they in for fear of being alone. this is what i have done in the past. i know there is a woman out there who would treat me alot better ,make me feel wanted and happy just so far i haven't found her. nearly every relationship i've had they seem fine but then their true colours emerge. i have never lived on my own mainly through fear .my ex treated me bad , i knew she was cheating on me although she never admitted it ,and it wasn't with women plus after she moved in she would only have sex 3 times a year (i know cos i could count the times lol) i think the penny finally dropped when she got drunk at her sisters wedding and she was grabbing all the men and trying to kiss them. the positive thing with my partner i have now i do trust her 100 % not to cheat on me.