This person doesn't even sound like she deserves anyone to debate or discuss anything. Who needs a person like that to waste your time with.

Well, I guess we do because we have 62 replies to a Valigator bashing. Not that she doesn't deserve it but she is probably getting a rise out of all the attention she's getting from us.

I agree with most but the one thing I do not agree with is that she thinks she is doing good - she only spews hate for RSOs but not anything about children - she does not think she is doing good - she is one of those people filled with hate for ANYONE she THINKS is not her equal.

You will never win a debate with this woman.

On another note, I noticed on her blog that she referred to the ladies on this board as "bitches."

Why call them names? Why do they have to be bitches? What did they do to make them bitches?

The plight of the mothers, sons, and family member of registrants represented on this board is the product of the collateral damage by their husbands, sons, or loved one. These ladies here did not commit a crime. They are only here because they have unconditional love for the registrant.

There is something wrong when a person calls a bunch of ladies---who she has never met and do not even know--- trying to cope with mess "bitches."

The vitriol is not becoming of a normal person.

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"On another note, I noticed on her blog that she referred to the ladies on this board as "bitches."

Why call them names? Why do they have to be bitches? What did they do to make them bitches?"

Rew, I have to ask, what is the gender of the dog in your profile pic?

Independent - I think you did a great job in the debate. I think I understand what you wanted to accomplish however we did try to warn you. That last volley of comment exchanges with her shows you that we tried to tell you she ALWAYS ends her crap with yeah but you are a sex offender - so there!

You tried very hard to treat her as intelligent and worthy of the intellectual trust needed to understand a true debate. She does not have that and I do not think she even understands it at all. I mean if you just look at her last comment you get some insight to the type of person she is - she does not believe the true statistics - she is definitely a narcissist that is clear to see, I guarantee that RSOs are not the only group she considers beneath her, she dismisses any studies or statistics compiled by experts because "she knows better" than they do, And those are just a few of her narcissist tendencies. And then she ends every conversation she has with anyone with the ole' " ... you are a sex offender and I am not" ploy. I can only think of one reason she does not want the debate on her blog and that is because she does not want the occasional passer by to get more information to the truth then to the hate.

Her comment that she does not post sources anymore because everyone discounts them is probably a true statement - I have seen comments by her where she used media reports and her own comments as resources - of course those are not valid sources in an academic setting - you know that and I know that but obviously she does not.

Not to worry though because it does not seem that many read or post on her blog - it has been proposed that some of the comments that get through are actually her own alter-egos. She does not (obviously) see how very strange it is for someone that is not at all involved in sex offenders issues or any other type of real activist work for children etc. to maintain a blog devoted solely to "calling out" sex offenders personally, calling their loved ones names, or trolling this site solely for the purpose of maintaining that blog and attacking the people. It is strange - she is very obsessed. She cannot use the excuse of it is for the children that she does that because she is NO way helping any children by doing that.

Either she posts it in her blog and says she won, or she doesn't and admits defeat. She's trying to wriggle out of it like a coward.

Perhaps Independent should find someone who will actually debate with him. I'm not advocating immediate action but shouldn't we bring these types of things to the attention of the media. What I mean is this: Politicians, even the ones that realize the truth, are unwilling to support RSO's because it is political suicide so shouldn't we be trying harder to convince the general public of the truth? And shouldn't that be done through the same channels that created the problem: the media, specifically the TV? Perhaps, a true debate could be had with someone with prestige which Valigator has none of (She has six people following her blog and even less following her elsewhere. She isn't even close to worth a second thought.)? The public debate was a great idea Independent but it seems to have had a flaw from the beginning. Valigator was the flaw. Perhaps, someone with prestige should be debated with and then bring it to the media's attention. We need to do more in the world.