Depression Support Group
Depression is a real and debilitating condition that is often misunderstood by family and friends. Its meaning can range from a prolonged period of sadness to an actual mental illness with specific symptoms. Find and share experiences with others who are going through the same struggles.
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Ziggy Baitz (my dear friend from Oz, wrote this SIX years ago). I felt this SHOULD b shared.
Ziggy = Female
"Why do you suffer depression?" "I don't know, I just do."
Despite the efforts of health advocates and government initiatives to encourage awareness and understanding of mental illness, depression is still the single, most discriminated against health issue in the world today. It is a life- threatening illness, but unfortunately, not taken seriously enough.
Throughout history, people with mental illness have been hidden away in institutions, 'put away, out of sight and out of mind.' Pun intended. Even the name of these institutions has changed several times over the years to allay the fears of both sufferer and probably, to a higher degree, the general public. People branded as insane were put into the infamous mental institution, 'Bedlam,' some 100 years ago. These places have been referred to as 'loony bins,' 'lunatic asylums,' 'nut and mad houses,' mental hospitals or institutions, and with some modernisation, psychiatric hospitals and/or institutions. In the 1970s, they became known as 'acute medical' hospitals. That way, there was no indication of the type of medicine practised for the patients hidden inside.
Whatever names have been given to these places for the mentally ill, and no matter how treatments have changed, the name-calling never has. Nut-case, fruit cake, loony, loon or just plain lunatic, crazy, mad, loopy, crackers. The list goes on. Even television and radio commercials can and do advertise their upcoming sales as being 'sheer madness', using euphemisms like 'Crazy J's', or, K*n Blah 'has gone mad,' as we see him wrapped in a straight jacket, a parrot on his shoulder and patch over his crossed eye. This kind of representation continues on without a whimper of compassion for the mentally ill. Worse, they are ridiculed.
The depressive will most often be asked, 'what caused you to feel this way?' Losing a loved one, going through divorce or enduring chronic illness are just some situations that are very likely to cause depression. These depressions are natural, understood and therefore empathised with . . . as long as it goes away after a short while.
I am not referring to this kind of reactive depression, but to those who suffer endogenous depression, the kind that descends for no apparent reason, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, anxiety, panic attics and other forms of mental illness that don't go away after what's considered to be a healthy amount of time. For many, it does not go away at all.
'Snap out of it,' the sufferer is told.
'Get a hobby,' is a very popular suggestion.
'Have a nice cup of tea, that will make you feel better.'
'Take a walk.'
'You need to get busy.'
'Get over it.'
'There are plenty of people worse off than you, so pull yourself out of it.'
Again, another endless list of suggestions to get you off your bum and into the real world. All the above ought to take your mind off your problems, right? Not right. If one is depressed, one cannot do these things and is lucky to be able to simply get out of bed, often for days, let alone put the kettle on to make a cup of tea.
I feel qualified to say these things having suffered severe and chronic depression for some 40 years. It's a lonely, frightening, isolating and alienating world.
Something rather wonderful happened to me four years ago. I was diagnosed with breast cancer. A life threatening illness people understand! The support was overwhelming and miraculous. When I would have a depressive episode, those around me put it down to my having cancer. I kept this little joke to myself as selfishly, I drank in the sympathy and support I had never received when depressed. I was so happy to be given the loving attention and get-well wishes.
Nobody suggested I 'snap out of it,' or 'find a hobby.' Nobody would even consider me 'taking a walk.' I was not well enough, and certainly the expectation, indeed, requirement to get in the least bit busy, or think about other people who are worse off than myself in order to 'get over it [the cancer],' was suggested. There were plenty of offers to 'have a nice cup of tea' to make me feel better, but I wasn't expected to make it myself. It was the offer of someone making me that cup of tea that had me feeling very much better, not the tea itself.
"Why did I get breast cancer"? "I don't know, I just did."
Why do I get depressed? "I don't know, I just do."
- January 2006
Ziggy = Female
"Why do you suffer depression?" "I don't know, I just do."
Despite the efforts of health advocates and government initiatives to encourage awareness and understanding of mental illness, depression is still the single, most discriminated against health issue in the world today. It is a life- threatening illness, but unfortunately, not taken seriously enough.
Throughout history, people with mental illness have been hidden away in institutions, 'put away, out of sight and out of mind.' Pun intended. Even the name of these institutions has changed several times over the years to allay the fears of both sufferer and probably, to a higher degree, the general public. People branded as insane were put into the infamous mental institution, 'Bedlam,' some 100 years ago. These places have been referred to as 'loony bins,' 'lunatic asylums,' 'nut and mad houses,' mental hospitals or institutions, and with some modernisation, psychiatric hospitals and/or institutions. In the 1970s, they became known as 'acute medical' hospitals. That way, there was no indication of the type of medicine practised for the patients hidden inside.
Whatever names have been given to these places for the mentally ill, and no matter how treatments have changed, the name-calling never has. Nut-case, fruit cake, loony, loon or just plain lunatic, crazy, mad, loopy, crackers. The list goes on. Even television and radio commercials can and do advertise their upcoming sales as being 'sheer madness', using euphemisms like 'Crazy J's', or, K*n Blah 'has gone mad,' as we see him wrapped in a straight jacket, a parrot on his shoulder and patch over his crossed eye. This kind of representation continues on without a whimper of compassion for the mentally ill. Worse, they are ridiculed.
The depressive will most often be asked, 'what caused you to feel this way?' Losing a loved one, going through divorce or enduring chronic illness are just some situations that are very likely to cause depression. These depressions are natural, understood and therefore empathised with . . . as long as it goes away after a short while.
I am not referring to this kind of reactive depression, but to those who suffer endogenous depression, the kind that descends for no apparent reason, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, anxiety, panic attics and other forms of mental illness that don't go away after what's considered to be a healthy amount of time. For many, it does not go away at all.
'Snap out of it,' the sufferer is told.
'Get a hobby,' is a very popular suggestion.
'Have a nice cup of tea, that will make you feel better.'
'Take a walk.'
'You need to get busy.'
'Get over it.'
'There are plenty of people worse off than you, so pull yourself out of it.'
Again, another endless list of suggestions to get you off your bum and into the real world. All the above ought to take your mind off your problems, right? Not right. If one is depressed, one cannot do these things and is lucky to be able to simply get out of bed, often for days, let alone put the kettle on to make a cup of tea.
I feel qualified to say these things having suffered severe and chronic depression for some 40 years. It's a lonely, frightening, isolating and alienating world.
Something rather wonderful happened to me four years ago. I was diagnosed with breast cancer. A life threatening illness people understand! The support was overwhelming and miraculous. When I would have a depressive episode, those around me put it down to my having cancer. I kept this little joke to myself as selfishly, I drank in the sympathy and support I had never received when depressed. I was so happy to be given the loving attention and get-well wishes.
Nobody suggested I 'snap out of it,' or 'find a hobby.' Nobody would even consider me 'taking a walk.' I was not well enough, and certainly the expectation, indeed, requirement to get in the least bit busy, or think about other people who are worse off than myself in order to 'get over it [the cancer],' was suggested. There were plenty of offers to 'have a nice cup of tea' to make me feel better, but I wasn't expected to make it myself. It was the offer of someone making me that cup of tea that had me feeling very much better, not the tea itself.
"Why did I get breast cancer"? "I don't know, I just did."
Why do I get depressed? "I don't know, I just do."
- January 2006
The why and I depressed answer? Life has not been kind to me and that contributes to it, but it is not the complete answer. I do not know the answer. Really I find I can't answer most questions that I am asked such as "where do you see yourself in 10 years" I really really hate those kinds of questions. Only answers I come up with are "I don't know" or "dead" . Well time for me to go suck it up and put on my fake face. My sister that I haven't seen since June has decided to stop in on her way through the city. Figures that this week my heart was crushed and I really don't want to see anyone, because I know I will have a break down at the least little thing. I barely made it to get milk- started to cry standing in line. How pathetic!
just wanted to say i have had a similar experience with counselling and pyschotherapy
both made me worse
therapy & counseling did not make (you) worse; they made u face stuff u weren't prepared 2 FACE!! Gene
Conclusion: Person A spends more time in a depressed state of mind than Person B. Person B has a better life than Person A
Not a better life just a more productive one I work everyday that my physical body allows me to and yet I feel it would be easier for me just to lay down on a set of railroad tracks. I have only one reason for living...she is my life and world!! So here I am trudging through life till my natural end not any less or more depressed because of what I do on a daily basis.
i have often wondered the same thing myself
i am one of those people who do all of the 'things' they say you should do to avoid depression
as far as anyone can see i am high functioning
however, i have suffered terrible depression and been to hell and back
a few times
so if i had not have done all the things i did would i have infact been even more depressed?
OR
did all i have done make no difference whatsoever it just means that i am high functioning AND depressed
but infact maybe it was worse for me
because work is HELL when you are depressed anxious and paranoid
the gym when you are depressed ?
righto!
maybe these stupid people that say keep going and keep fighting it are actually just making the lives of the depressed more painful
or as i said earlier maybe i would have been worse had i not done all that stuff
i stopped washing
eating
and fantasised about hanging myself for 6 months
i could actually see that rope every night
i felt it creep round my neck
but i still went to work
where all the bitches and bullies took me for their target
making me the brunt of all their jokes and making my life hell
because i was so sick and vulnerable
and nobody helped me
yey me for keeping going eh?
I will never be convinced the person to is sitting in the dark, alone, spiraling downward is not worse of than the person who is active and productive .. depression given to both.
I'll take depression with activity and productivity over depression with spiraling downward.
But that is just my perspective.
This is a good reminder to me to be compassionate with those around me, regardless what I think about how they might do things better or different. My job is not to judge, but to be the most loving person I can be. I needed this reminder today, as I have been feeling too sorry for myself the past couple days to be thinking about what I can do for others.
Thank you!