i am just wondering if you have ever reached the point where you can see no other option and just want to stop feeling so bad so much? people will always do it and no words will stop some of them.
you have the right to state your opinion, but it seems a bit brutish in a way to say stop doing it and expect people to listen.

I have tryed 2 times sofar ( not enough pills ) and it is not the right way, I was thinking of myself, not the others around me. Glad I failed but still don't want to live like this for the rest of my life but there is others to think of 1st. Baz

Although you may be right about 98 percent of what you wrote Donna, I think the way you worded it comes across in an all-knowing and harsh way. Speaking from experience, sometimes some of us cannot control our emotions or can barely control our emotions. I think people reach out here b/c they truly do not want to die, are hoping for words of wisdom, a caring soul, an ear to listen, someone to relate to. Not to be preached to.

Maybe it's better to address someone on a case by case basis and help them instead of a post like this. I felt suicidal today, on today of all days, christmas eve, now technically Christmas. Yes, what stopped me today was thinking of my family forever grieving every Christmas. However, that's this time. Sometimes I cannot control my mental state. To suggest that everyone can is a bit foolish

I agree 100% with Vegan... sometimes you have little to no control when your mind is thinking about suicide.

a person doing suicide isnt a coward or a quitter,who cant face life at all. Sorry but your wrong and that is mean that could drive someone to suicide saying that you should be ashamed,

Sorry to be harsh but saying that their a coward wont help it will most likely drive them towards suicide i get your main point thoguh

i dont think suicide is an answer... but don't think this stuff helps either.

the coward thing is lame and doesn't help anything. fear is what stops most people at the low points in their lives. some people have no family.

gee how kind of you to judge like that.

Donna, you said this:

"Suicide is not the answer, it is the act of a quitter, a coward, who can't face life."


Judgmental much?

Yes....I tried to commit suicide on Nov 29th, 2007. No, I did not succeed for whatever reason and some days I am glad for that BUT how dare you call me a "quitter" and a "coward". Lady, you have NO idea what I have been through in my life and while I will agree suicide is very final and not the answer, DO NOT dare to sit up here and judge me with your God driven, holier than thou attitude.

Just remember....when you think you want to start throwing around your little comments....God is watching YOU.....got it?

And I wanted to add that it's the holier than thou like this that make me hate the God thing and all it stands for.

Way to drive people away instead of embrace them.

Thank you, Donna, for insulting the memory of the greatest man I ever knew. Merry ----ing Christmas to you.

I'd rather feel this pain now that for him to have tried to carry on. I fight every day to carry on his memory, and yes - I have had a failed suicide attempt myself.

way to alienate people donna

I lost my partner to suicide thank you very much, and can tell you right now you are far far FAR more of a coward than she ever was!!!

Like you, people can post what they need to say or what they want to say...unlike you they are not insulting others or being harsh....you got issues with what tehy say then dont read it.

yes I am annoyed, cos you have insulted the memoriy of my partner....and those of many people on here.
you have insulted the people that have got so low that they can see the way out..rather than offering support you have made judgement.

also got to say for a supposed christian...your compassion is exceptionally limited.

Lady you have no idea. Have you ever gotten to the point where you think about suicide everyday you wake up? And not just once a day either. These thoughts come up for various reasons, but it is also for lack of treatment for depression. I know the hell I have been through trying to get treatment, but not every pill works for everyone. I have been doing reading on suicide and some people get to the point where this is the only answer they see, so they attempt or even complete suicide. These people aren't quitters or cowardice, they are hurting so bad inside. You should be ashamed to call them these names.

Depression is a disease and without proper treatment it can kill you, just like any other disease. Mental health treatment needs to get better. I have been treated like a piece of garbage by therapists and psychiatrists, and they are the so called experts. With the kind of treatment, we get, the ones who suffer with any mental anguish, there is no wonder people do get to the point of suicide.

It's the act of a very sick person too. I have had a suicide in my life, and I don't think he was a coward, he was very very ill.