Also...nobody said that suicide IS a selfless act, they said that in the mind of the person contemplating it it's doing everyone they care about a favor.

And not everyone has family who loves them no matter what; most of us have families who just don't get it and while that's not their fault, it makes it very hard for those of us who feel like we're all alone with this.

Which is why we have places like this.

Everyone has someone that loves them but they may not know it. People get busy with their day to day lives and forget to show their family how much they mean to them. There is no parent that is going to want their son or daughter to kill themselves, no matter what.

I never think about myself, as a matter of fact, I put myself last a lot. So this thought, that I am only thinking of myself is not the truth. These thoughts aren't easy to stop. You have no idea of severe depression. That is as ignorant of a statement as telling someone to snap out of depression. Doesn't happen that easy. Listen to what people are telling you here, and think before you post again with anything.

Who said anyone WANTS us to kill ourselves? That's not what we're saying here. But you know what; you've got this all figured out, so I'm done here.

Suicide is killing yourself or attempting it. That is what this post was all about, don't do it. There are people that are in their 80's and up and they are fighting to stay alive. They have gone through hard times in their lives and are still wanting more life. My mom grewup in the depression era, supported two kids by herself, working as a waitress and died of cancer at 87 but lived almost two months longer than the doctors estimated.

Hon, you may feel very strongly against suicide, but I don't think that responding in this way is positive. To me I feel like you are standing on a pedestal and looking down on the people who have ever thought about suicide.

Just think, you could phrase your message this way:

Suicide is not the answer. Even when you are at your darkest moment everyone of you can find the courage and strength to pull through. Realize that there are people who love you out there who would be devastated by your death. Even when you feel valueless realize that its a lie and that you are of value. If you died it would hurt, not help, the people you love. So . . . suicide is not the answer.

Now isn't that more positive than saying that people who commit suicide are cowardly selfish quitters?

*hugs* Have compassion Donna:) Even if you find this perspective incomprehensible. Lets spread the love :)

Donna, I've replied once and wish I was not replying again. You are coming off sounding very judgmental and unaware of the feeling that depression and other illnesses can bring about. I find your attitude to be extreme for someone posting on these boards. Please don't judge until you've walked in my shoes. You can do as you choose, just don't judge others who choose differently.

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