Depression Support Group
Depression is a real and debilitating condition that is often misunderstood by family and friends. Its meaning can range from a prolonged period of sadness to an actual mental illness with specific symptoms. Find and share experiences with others who are going through the same struggles.
Be strong !!
Kelly
I've questioned the existence of a higher power since I was in high school, when I was able to look back at my childhood and realized the things I went through weren't quite right or normal. And now as an adult I have a greater capacity to question and reason, but the suffering that people endure and the wickedness that some people are capable of has only confused me more. I also don't like the idea that I'm not in control of my greater destiny.
I think people can be spiritual without subscribing to a defined set of doctrines which dictate the word of unknown creators and puppet masters.
I wish there were a magic lamp.
Right now having to deal with my old cat being sick, and dealing with that, while thinking of the VAST solar solar system....though maybe i'll try to con/convince myself of the rainbow bridge, when that bad event eventually happens.
As for God, it's important to first establish that you still believe. Do you have a strong conviction that god exists? For me, I have gone from born-again-christian to atheist, because I have no conviction that there is a god now. When you know for sure whether there is a god or not you can begin to ask him questions, or move on.
....Your understanding of God is not on a proper foundation....
...Ummm...You must step out of the box of your own life and from viewing things that others have taught you are must be's...
...Sometimes placing oneself in another shoes or like can be of help in opening your mind to view things from not just your viewpoint but from another's...
...Symbolism can be of help...Take the creatures in the sea....A fish is clueless to the fact that there is a being above the sea on the same planet that has tossed a bait into it's habitat that has a hook and hidden string...And once this fish realizes it was caught and is now captured; it is to late....
...There are powers above man, as there are powers above the fish in the sea....We are not "THE" power....Even though man has deemed himself to be all so wise...And the whole time man has built the statue shown to Daniel...
...The Spirit God above creation will not answer a prayer if it has no heart and is not in alignment with His will...
...Or...Think of this....There is a knock at your door...You go to answer it and look through the peephole to see who it is and you do not know the person...The person tells you that you must let them in....You say that you are not opening the door because you do not know them...The person tells you yes you know me....You ask, who are you and where are you from...The person tells you he is on your team and has been eating your flesh so you have to let them in...
...I do not know what math earth people have done?....However, if they literally think God is going to let them in His house when they explain they were eating his flesh and bowing to the torture instrument they killed him on; they did the wrong math!...
...Suffering here is actually a good thing otherwise you would be clueless to where you are...A suffering not leading to death is like a thorn...It actually allows you to know you are not in a good place...
...It is not the depressed who are sick but those not depressed that are sick....The amount of evil deeds that occur by one to another that occur on earth each day is a horror...Being depressed by these bad things is fine...Not being depressed from this place is not....
...Because if you are not depressed then one is fine that billions have been killed on earth; billions have been sexually abused; billions have gotten run over for gain; and this beat goes on....
...Instead of asking for what YOU want....Try to instead ask for what God wants from YOU!...
...It is not the depressed who are sick but those not depressed that are sick....The amount of evil deeds that occur by one to another that occur on earth each day is a horror...Being depressed by these bad things is fine...Not being depressed from this place is not....
...Because if you are not depressed then one is fine that billions have been killed on earth; billions have been sexually abused; billions have gotten run over for gain; and this beat goes on....
...Instead of asking for what YOU want....Try to instead ask for what God wants from YOU!... "
Are you serious?! Being depressed is an ILLNESS! It is NOT a normal response to the challenges we face, and it is NOT a good thing! If your god tells you this then you are deluded. I'm sorry, but this is just bullshit.
if religion does work for you---and you actually are happy, not depressed---great; whatever works.
but, i keep on forgetting camus' theory of the absurd, and how it's best to just accept that the world doesn't make sense. it's only from this site that i keep on remembering that stuff, but that quick forget it again.
...You cannot take a lie from under the lie column and place it under the truth column...
...You cannot take evil and place it under the good column...And you cannot take light and place it under the darkness column...
...The Apostle Paul explains that he had a thorn He really wanted removed by God....God did not remove the thorn....Whatever the thorn was; it was something causing him a physical issue....
... Depressed is an illness?....Who says so?...Man...This is where this information has come from..." You cannot be depressed and must be happy."...
...Really?...And where does depression stem from in most individuals?
...In most individuals they are depressed from evils done to them by other individuals...And this is a sickness?...I am not sick from depression; the sick ones are the ones who made me depressed...
...You want the never ending plethora of what has depressed me?....
....Sexually abused in grammar school by 2 different people...
....Had to fist fight a never ending amount of bullies....They learned better when none one a fight against me 1 time...
...Worked in Law Enforcement and had to deal with never ending poison there...Cases fixed...Public Defenders and State Attorneys in cahoots...Lawyers who would get their client off because they were friends with the judge....Prisoner beat in hiding to acquire information....Officers purposely driving down prisoners by mouth and fist for no reason or cause...
...An ex-wife that was a poison that used me in every way possible until no more gain could be had...And jammed me with endless evils upon me for only trying to do good...
...And this in only some of the bigger depressing issues....Leaving out the most...
...And I am depressed because of these things...So now I am labeled sick because of it?...
...NO!!!!!...
...They were the sick ones for doing evil and saying it was good....
...And because I am not happy I am sick?...
...Let me use your term Juice...Bullshit!...
...I do not know but how many times does one need to be the nail getting whacked by the hammer until they become depressed?
...GOOD and EVIL have there own columns and neither can be interchanged under the column of the other...!
And I admit mine have too in the past on DS because I allowed my buttons to be pressed. God and religion is a touchy subject for me.
I was a born again Christian for a long time
I no longer follow and believe what I was taught and told.
I am Agnostic verging on atheism.
I live my life with more of a secular humanist point of view.
Penntucky, I am sorry about your cat and you are going through a difficult time. Our animal friends are a great source of companionship and comfort.
And I know when the topic of death is close to home is when people may hope that there is a Rainbow bridge for our animal friends. It helps people get through the grieving process. A comfort. I did the same thing for my doggy. I really have no clue what lies beyond this life but it's a nice thought to hope there is something pleasant beyond this life.
If it helps you to feel better then yeah, con/convince.
There's no rules. No right or wrong.
Wcmdjmjmm posted a great comment on the subject of religion.
...Christ...
...Christ is the actual condemnation of the world giving definitive proof it is evil...
...Why?...
...He did nothing bad to 1 person 1 time...
...All He did do was to help people and forced no one to follow Him; forced no one to do anything, told the truth, did not pick up a weapon against another, healed people; and for all of these works; mankind killed Him off of the earth...
...So He IS the condemnation of the earth...
...He was seen with human flesh eyes proof this place is evil...
...What proof?...
...He did zero wrong to anyone and man killed him without being guilty of anything...Therefore...Man, saying, "We are good!."...Is a proven lie...
...The "We are good" people killed the perfect good off the earth...Simple math is the answer....
...How can the "We are good" kill the perfect good off the earth if they are good?...This 1+1 does not = 2!...Since the math equation does not add up in any way...One good is not a good and the works brought forth is the evidence...
...Christ's works during His life...Man's works during their lives...And the color contrast of darkness and light is seen....
...Christ forced nothing...Mankind forced all kind's of things...
...Christ killed none...Mankind killed billions....
...Christ told the truth...Man lies...
....Christ usurped no one for gain...Mankind run's over all for gain...
...Light/ darkness...Contrasted...
....Depressed is NOT an illness....It is the effect upon one from being born in a place where these work's of man is being thrust-ed upon those trying to do good...
...God knows who is good and who is not...He knows who is seriously trying to be like Him and do good and he knows who is saying they are doing good when they are not...
...Everyone on earth has been corrupted, as like a virus wrecking a computer program...But, a faith placed in the perfect good; and the perfect good did promise an exit out!...He has the keys; not man...
Aren't you so glad you started this thread?
Lol
Holy moly.
Praise the Flying Spaghetti Monster is all I can say.