women control sex because of the physicality of their bodies...allowing 'access' or not...well studied in anthropology...thank god, the alternative is rape.. in other words, of course they do. ha ha. As someone pointed out, men can deny their partner sex too, though. I was turned down more often than I turned him down. He told me I wanted sex too often (several times a week). He was often "tired" so I get what Louie is saying...it can be hurtful and "icky", I agree with her.. but maybe it is incompatible sex drives too, I dunno.. but sometimes men control the sex. Tada!!

I have never used sex to get what I wanted from a man, unless you are talking about getting sex itself, lol. I know some women who do that, though.

i disagree. i have a high sex drive and if you are not high sexed male or female then that determines who is in control so to speak. if ya cant do it you cant do it ..end of lol

What does it say about the health of a relationship or the two people in it if their sexual relationship becomes something to be bargained for?

In general in my opinion, Sex is the Woman's domain, Violence is the man's. Things can flip where a man is very satifying to his partner or women can becomes very angry and violent. Be initially it is my experience that the best thing a guy can do is be the best him he can be. If she likes you she likes you and she is going to decide whether seh is going to give it to you. That's my two cents.

I think that a lot of this depends on who you are with. In my experiences I have never been with a woman who had a sex drive as high as mine so she did control the sex as she didn't want it as much as I did.

I would love to meet a woman who would actually initiate sex instead of me always being the one to initiate it.

I think that a lot of this also depends on how we define sex. If we define sex as just fun and we don't view it as an act of intimacy then we tend to trivialize it but if we view sex as an act of love and closeness then we tend to attach a different meaning to it.

Who knows...maybe I am wrong about everything I have said

Hey, hey, it does work both ways... it's only working when the "junk" is working...

My stuff ain't "junk", it's magic.

(or it was magic, stupid deployment)

Well, my. Human sexuality is not at all like monkey sexuality. Back to the research for me.

Bridget, you never had "Wild Monkey Sex"?

That is private Siege. ;O)

If I'm wrong, then how about I take all of you to lunch, but before we actually go to lunch, then lets have safe sex...ok? I'm game...you?...anyone?...anyone?...that's what I thought...women control sex...

Hmmmm. I was rejected many times in my marriage as well. You would be surprised. Lingerie didn't even work. I don't think I ever rejected him once.

And you would be correct, Jaken...I'm still married and I have never cheated, nor will I ever cheat on a woman. I was just trying to make a point to compete with your Three's Company analogy...

Women control the sex. Just go to any nightclub and see. There is never a "Dudes Night" unless it is at a club named conveniently "The Man Hole"
The reason why guys drop off from wanting their wives is because those wives make it not worth it.
Same for ladies too I imagine, if the husband/boyfriend is a dork why get worked up for it.
But is both are healthy and willing, the man is a pawn on the woman's chessboard.

I want a man who is funny, but compassionate. I'll fight you for him, Jaken. Just name the time and place.