Alcoholism Support Group
Alcoholism is the continued consumption of alcoholic beverages, even when it is negatively affecting your health, work, relationships and life. If you think alcohol is causing you to lose control, it's time to seek help. Our group is a safe place to vent, check in, get back up if you fall, and reach sobriety.
First time post - feeling strangely naked.
My wife is an alcoholic and has been for around three or four years - it was pretty gradual so its hard to say exactly. She functions pretty well, but is drinking more and more - she thinks secretly, but she's lousy at hiding drink, and so obviously drunk when she thinks she's being covert. It would be funny if it were not so annoying. What hurts most is she knows I know she's drinking, knows I know she's lying about just about everything, and has no compunction about stealing from me, and in the sneakiest possible ways - so inventive. She must have stolen £10,000 in three years either helping herself to my bank account, or running up credit cards until it gets silly, and I end up paying them off.
She's come to such an accomodation with lying she no longer tells the truth even if nothing is at stake, and has no need to lie - its just her default position. Today she came in from walking the dogs (with whom she is as dutiful and loyal as anyone, drunk or sober), and put a bottle of wine down on the counter proudly proclaiming she only got one bottle today - its work tomorrow! So, how come she's slurring her speech and cursing at the hi-fi when it wont do what she wants, and yet the bottle isn't opened yet? Well, two empty cider tins and another bottle of wine in the bedroom answer that question.
I've done all the stuff you think you're the first ever to do - shouting, threatening, drinking with her, telling her we're finished, begging her to see sense, comforting her - everything i can think of, and recently I have begun to start thinking through how to split up with as little mess as possible - she would be monstrous if she really thought it was happening. I've wondered if I should quietly put my important possessions in storage without saying anything, so that when she goes crazy and wrecks everything (she's done this before) there is less collateral damage. Your mind goes into overdrive thinking it all through.
I ask myself why I havent just walked away up to now, and I think its because I do care a great deal about her, and I worry she would end up on the street quite quickly. Of course, at first she'd have half of the proceeds of splitting to live off, or get a new place with - but she's pathetic with money and has no concept of budgetting. It makes me worry she'd be homelss or dead in five years.
And now she's hit me with the sucker punch - she's been diagnosed with breast cancer. We're waiting for the verdict on the best course of treatment, but of course its making her drink even more, despite me pointing out the drink may have caused the cancer. I am wracked with grief that she may die, but depressed that she may live - how heartless does that sound? I can't leave her now - not when she is ill and will need someone to look after her. And if she lives, and gets well, she'll still drink and I'll be trapped, too afraid of the guilt to leave.
A few weeks ago, I felt depressed and suicidal and, comically it seems to me now, bought a kit from Europe to do myself in with helium gas - you'd be amazed how easy it is. Somewhere in there, there's a great joke about "Brexit". Anyway, it was £400; got it delivered to Argos of all places (sorry Argos, its no fault of yours), so I could collect it privately. When I collected it, I opened the package and immediately knew I didn't seriously want to die - I was too f****g angry at the rubbish they send you while parting you from £400!! You dont even get the helium! Oh no, you have to go a kids balloon shop or something for that, and to top it all, I later spotted the same kit from Australia for only $200Aus. In a strange way, it did me good - I sat in the car, gazing at this nonsense and cursing and moaning about what a jackass I am. Its something that's given me a laugh a few times, but also something I cold easily weep over when I think of what put me in that frame of mind to begin with. Thankfully, that little episode of black comedy has stopped me being scared of those thoughts, as I've learned I am only morbidly curious, not serious.
I do wonder if I am her problem really. I can outdrink her anytime, and I love a drink - in fact I'm always a bit suspicious of people who don't like a drink. Indeed on a weekend, I might easily drink more than her in a sitting. But whereas she has no off switch, I can just choose to drink or not to drink as my mood, and the circumstances dictate - OK, its a lot to do with being too idle to go get it - I dont think I've ever wanted a drink enough to make the effort to go buy some, but I would drop it in the trolley if I'm doing the weekly shop. She'd walk over broken glass in her bare feet to suck a barmaids apron!. Its a worry though - while I would characterise myself as a binge drinker, more than an alcoholic; I can't help but wonder where that line is when you stop sucking out of the bottle and it starts sucking out of you - I'm paraphrasing a line from "One flew over the cuckoos nest". A big concern for me is are we creating a problem for each other - you know, me validating her drinking by also drinking, and her dragging across the line of self-control. I heard a joke recently that said "Q:What did they call binge drinking in the eighties? A:Drinking". Its kinda true I think, but drinking in the eighties was all done down the pub, but now its in front of Netflix, where there's no last orders.
As things are today, I am as happy with a coke or orange squash as I am with wine, but pour me a glass and I'll drink it - so I dont think I'm helping her, but if I do refuse a drink as I sometimes do, I get this whole sarcastic "Oh, YOURE being good arent you?" line. As though not drinking is really wierd - Oh, I just wish she'd stop drinking or go away. I love her too much to want to abandon her, but she loves the drink too much to hear me when I ask her to consider AA or some other counselling. So, now she's got this cancer, it puts a ton of concrete in my stomach, but there's a tiny far off voice in my head telling me its an escape - and that is the scariest thing I've had to face yet. I don't know who is more callous - me harbouring this guilty idea that her death might just fix everything, or her lying in the gutter looking down on me (Again, not mine - I think that's Oscar Wilde?)
So, there we have it. I don't really feel able to claim I'm a victim, or accept the role of the protagonist - just a player in a dismal situation. Looks a bit gloomy, but I try to find some light when I can.
I'm sure I've ranted on enough, so sorry everyone, sorry, sorry! If you want to call me a jackass, you may be right, or maybe you have something constructive to suggest - I suspect I havent said a single original thing in all the remarks above have I? - there must be thousand of spouses who've tottered across the same crumbling bridge wondering if there are others in the waters below trying not to drown.
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So mad at Xfinity! They're trying to charge me $115 per month for the same service I had been paying $50 the last four years. I took the equipment to UPS for shipping and cancelled my subscription today! Next door was a cookie shop called Crumbl. I had heard of it before but never went in until today. I don't need one more sugar fix, but maybe it will help with my sad) grieving heart....$15...
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I know this is stupid, but after not being able to find a job after graduation for almost two years, I ended up just taking an online teaching job because I couldn't find anything in my field. I was trying to get out of teaching and I feel so devastated. I felt this crushing feeling when I signed the paperwork and when I was in the meetings. I know that sounds so dramatic but it is how I felt. It...


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I am really sorry that you are in this difficult position but please know that there is hope for you. Thank God that your plans with the helium did not work out – perhaps it was not meant to be. It may help if you break down this problem into several parts and look at how you can address each one separately.
Starting with your wife’s alcoholism, there are several things to consider. The first is that she is a sick woman and part of that sickness is in her mind. She is not a bad person but because of her sickness she will lie, steal and do whatever else it takes in order to get alcohol. Sadly, noting that you say or do is likely to have much effect on her. Therefore, you have two possible courses of action. The first option is to walk out and protect yourself but understandably you don’t want to do that. Sadly it may come to that.
Your second option is worth serious consideration and it involves learning how to keep your sanity while living with an alcoholic. You are completely out your depth in trying to handle this alone and you are likely to make many mistakes while you struggle to do your best. There Al-Anon meeting near you where you can draw on the support and experience of other people who are dealing with the same problem. You cannot afford to have your wife running up huge bills so you may need to look at ways to lock down your bank account and maybe cancel the credit cards.
You have no control over your wife’s drinking but you do have control over your own. I would urge you to treat it with extreme caution and if you think it is getting out of control, your only safe option is to spot completely.
Al-Anon Family Groups UK
57B Great Suffolk Street, London SE1 OBB.
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(P.S. I am normally PJ54 on DS but my PC is broken and I had to open a new account to get logged on. My old laptop is a nightmare as the keyboard is faulty and text floats all over the place).
One of the greatest difficulties faced by alcoholics is a lack of understanding about the exact nature of the problem. This often leads to fear about the future, hopelessness and a wrong approach that leads to failure.
The link below gives valuable information about alcoholism that both your wife and yourself could find useful.
Rua77 (A.k.a. PJ54)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pVBDQPC2XQ
Suicide is not the answer to your wife's drinking! Drinking, is not the answer to your wife's drinking! You really only need to do two things and they are both pretty easy and extremely helpful! You need to talk to a divorce lawyer, because your wife will never change....she has no motivation to! You just keep enabling her by allowing her to steel all your money, and her temper tantrums are manipulating you with feelings of guilt! I wouldn't stay married to a woman like that for 2 minutes!
Secondly, you need to get to an alanon meeting so you can better understand what is going on in your life and receive some helpful suggestions on what works and what doesn't work! I have a pretty good idea that you will hear something similar to what I just spoke about. You can see what your wife's drinking is doing to her, but look at what her drinking is doing to YOU! You will get alot of support at Alanon. Let us know how it goes.
In the meantime, I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers!
God Bless
Best wishes for you and your wife.