What is harping, and what is not, is relative. I've become very invested in terms of time away from kids, effort and now expense for my scenar and and I want to learn all i can from all sides, all opinions and I find it far more constructive to listen to someone with knowledge of tinnitus treatments than those simply postsing to say their tired of hearing something. I think everyone should feel free to post whatever they like so please don't limit what I can learn about the treatment simply because you feel it's harping. It's not to me.

No, I'm saying that you are the only person who has claimed 100% CURED by scenar. Not a single person who you treated or supervised was CURED and not a single person who purchased a scenar and tried it on themselves has reported a 100% CURE.
Maybe a Russian claims the scenar cured tinnitus? I guess it miraculously cures asthma, hearing loss, deafness and everything else. "

So what! You are implying this thing has been going on for ages, it hasn't. 4 people have visited me for treatment, 3 didn't count, and I sold three sets of probes to different people three weeks ago. Why can't you have some patience.

The device tells the body to heal itself. Yes on the face of it these results seem incredible, but it is an amazing medical device, you have to think outside of the normal dismal medical approach we tolerate in our drug dominated system. This is energetic medicine and treats the body as a whole.

I understand, Mairi; though while I understand your and Brad's view, there has been plenty of refereeing as to what is said, how it should be said, and the tone of voice in which to impart it. The point is to freely express and learn from all perspectives.

As I learned last Spring from 100+ PMs regarding the demag, there are FAR more who read here than participate here, Mairi. You cannot imagine how easily someone in despair can read one post and end up with a $1400 device they cannot afford. Greg's depth of reference and overall concern for the community is unique. I feel most would rather learn from the exchange than just hear Zephs views. -just my 2

this is interesting but very long report on scenar, and it contains an interview with the inventor

http://www.futuretechtoday.com/skenar/index.htm

have you spoke with Alexander Karosev regarding scenar and tinnitus? Are you already, or when will you be a certified practitioner?

Someone you should contact who'd be very willing to enhance your understanding of tinnitus:
http://www.med.wayne.edu/otohns/FacultyProfile/fpmjz.htm

"have you spoke with Alexander Karosev regarding scenar and tinnitus? Are you already, or when will you be a certified practitioner?"

no, I haven't managed to get his contact details yet

"Someone you should contact who'd be very willing to enhance your understanding of tinnitus:
http://www.med.wayne.edu/otohns/Fa... "

Yes, someone sent me his contact details a while ago. He was on my list to contact when I get more results but having had a rethink, I will send him a message now, as I think he is likely to believe me. Thanks for that.

certified practitioner?

I'd also recommend you call Pawel J. Jastreboff in the US. He's very willing to speak openly on subject of tinnitus: 404-778-3109

Amy Harris head of ATA's research will freely email you all ATA research on electrical therapies. I speak with her once a year: (800) 634-8978

Dr. Jinsheng Zhang's is a leading expert on the electrical suppression of tinnitus. You will not talk to a more knowledgeable, kinder person: 313-577-0066

These people will help you in your quest, Phil, but you must stop hiding behind the PC and reach out to them.

" certified practitioner? "

sorry missed that. no, 6 months away.

I have sent Dr. Jinsheng Zhang a message this morning.

OK I have made a note of Amy Harris' and Pawel J. Jastreboff number

I don't doubt that there are lots of people who know about tinnitus who would be worth contacting, but my concern is that they won't know anything about scenar, and until they research it themselves they aren't going to. Scenar is very complicated and to the outsider with no knowledge of scenar, what I am doing sounds crazy and dangerous. It would be better for them to read info first. I am not hiding I am just trying to do it carefully. I know already the sort of questions I will be faced with. I do find this mentally draining at the moment, but I feel I have to do it, but I want to spend as little time as possible repeating myself. I feel an email with appropriate links is most useful at this stage. If you feel such people would benefit from knowing this info, then please help me out. Direct them to this info, and then they can make their own mind and contact me when they have read the material. I have planned to contact all orgs when I have 6 positive results.