jobo, I have a Scenar and a Denas. What settings are you using and are you following Zeps treatment areas?
Thanks-

Sounds wonderul, jobo.

Please let us know the procedure of how you apply the treatment.

Did you modify the device by attaching stereo cables to the scenar?

What adjustments/modification had to be made to the device and what actually goes in your ear? Thanks a ton. Preciate it, jobo

when we were learning about the demagnetizer I posted pictures of it on my profile page. If you could throw some pics of your scenar device on your page that would be awesome. It's tough to get a mental picture on these things. I'm praying your T will hold it's improvement

Thanks for the update Jobo. Fingers crossed that it continues for you.

jobo8080, the fact that you can go places you couldn't go before and that you haven't had to take xanax for two days is very encouraging. It may take a while and you may have to continue the treatment to keep anything you achieve. I'm so glad you are getting some relief. Keep up the good work and keep us all posted.

Great to hear some positive news from someone else.

jobo8080 has signed an agreement not give out the technical details about the treatment. This info is only of real value if you possess a scenar. Also the info comes in a 35 page document, so it is quite extensive. I will be selling this as well as two home made probes and email help for 60 (+P&P) altogether in a few days, which I think is reasonable. Modification of the device is unecessary, this was a mistake I made, which I have mentioned on the youtube video comments.

Good to hear scenar has given some relief within the time you used it.
As always, keep us all updated.

Fortunatley for me the 'not usual' noises I have heard are gone and it was all to do with changing my computer as the motherboards I used with a nf4 chipset gave off a frequency which caused my ears to ring.

Welp... there's the flag thrown high. I wanted to believe it, and I know Zeph is nothing if not determined and I do appreciate your tenacity, fortitude and drive but we are all entitled to our opinion and mine has come full circle as I read:

"jobo8080 has signed an agreement not give out the technical details about the treatment."

Zeph, you and I both know not every one reading here is a member of Mensa. And some won't even get that. But you need to be very sure of your integrity when you begin charging the public via PayPal through a commercial website for goods pertaining to an unproved medical procedure.

I understand no one wants to give away their "medical findings". And I agree big medicine is deceitful by design. Half my country is convinced they can't make it through the day without anti-depressants and an Ambien before bed. It's a problem.

But those with purely humanitarian, helpful intentions don't talk in terms of excuses as to why they aren't registered with the ATA or confidentiality agreements. To the contrary, they speak with transparency, encourage testing, provid testing for free, demonstrating effectiveness -- and then -- look into setting prices.

I do wish you luck non the less, always treat others as you'd be treated, Philip. If you're hearts into helping and I'm mistaken then forgive me. I'm off, do take care.

And i do want to apologize for legnth. I type as I speak, and I speak too much. I won't post again. In close, the only way to know if SCENAR works is to try it, so give it a try.

Snowrider

The reason that I don't want scraps of ZAST talked about is because the integrity of the work should remain intact as one piece. If people are permitted to pass round details of the treatment without all the proper information and access to correct devices and probes, then mistakes are likely to be made, the negative side of my reputation and work is fuled, and all sorts of misinformation is spread around, which has already happened to small degree.

Scenar is going to be my main source of income. This isn't a side project it is my main project in life, and I have dedicated most of my free time to this since last Autumn, and I now plan to soon offer my treatment around my local area for a small charge. Doing all this for free is not going to pay my bills. I am in the process of setting up a small business, and I will be self empoyed on July 7th. I am not charging thousands for something that doesn't work, but 20 an hour, and a refund if there is no improvement. Scenar is something I am now dedicated to, because I recognise its potential in improving people's health.

People keep telling me that I will be a millionnaire if this works, well I wish they would stop saying that, and explian to me how. Should I charge 1000 per time for my knowledge or enough to put food on my plate. I chose the latter to be realistic and get results quicker.

Some people don't appreciate that there is no-one there to help me or guide me, I am in a completely unique situation, in knowing exactly what I should do here. I am gettng conflicting advice from every direction. All I know is that I need to be careful at the moment and protect myself and others, and if this means not being liberal with details currently then so be it. Safety is a big issue here, and I would feel very uneasy if this information was liberally spread around to people who think they know exactly what to do, without being able to refer to all the details.

The only person to whom the details are relevant are people who own a scenar, djmatco is such a person and shall be contacted forthwith.

The only reason I have yet to contact official bodies is because I want some results in others first, so that it doesn't get dismissed as nonsence. Why would I be registered with the ATA? I am in the UK, and other than a diplaoma in A&P, I have no medical qualifications. Once a few poeple get results then I have every intention of contacting the relevant bodies.

Snowrider, I understand your skepticism on this issue but I want you and everyone else to know that I was under No Obligation from Zeph to purchase anything from him. I made the purchase of the scenar on my own from a lady in the Ukraine. I did not have to purchase the probes from Phil. He was more than willing to tell me how to make my own. I also could have tried using the scenar on my own but I choose to buy his format, I felt for my own safety. Could I experimented on my own...Yes, but I did not want to. I have wasted a lot of money on other things to get rid of this nightmare but I thought at least with this scenar I don't have to pay co-pays which in the long run saves me money. I do understand Phil's point of view that he cannot live on charity alone. My husband started his own business 7 years ago and if he would have done everything for free we wouldn't be where we are today. I would hate to be a skeptic on new techniques since there is No Cure yet. I cannot go into detail about the actual steps with this procedure but I will give you my honest opinion as to whether or not this actually works. I am not bound by an agreement to cover up any results good or bad. I will tell everyone the truth so no need to go buy a scenar if you don't feel confident yet. Time will only tell. Please let's all be patient. I have confidence that this should work. One more note, it has been 3 days now that I have been off of xanax and everyone knows what my state of condition was a few weeks ago.

Zephiloyd, thanks for explaining the complexity of your situation to us. We appreciate your efforts and determination to help find a cure. No reason you shouldn't make this your career. This will entail dealing with the public in your chosen profession. Don't let the skeptics and nay sayers and mean people hold you back. I wish your research and your business well. I hope it will help future generations and all of us that suffer from tinnitus.

As I said in my last post: "the only way to know if SCENAR works is to try it, so give it a try"

How is this naysay?

Jobo, I understand. And with respect, points regarding home businesses are not the point. The relevant point and problem is someone with no working knowledge of the ear or tinnitus is charging $120 for instructions on how to hold a scenar in one hand while wiggling a probe in your ear.

Again, I do not think he's scamming or a con of any sort, that is a misread -- I simply feel Zeph is somewhat mislead, inexperienced and taking all the wrong roads in bringing his treatment to light.

If nothing else, Earitated, please understand that the very purpose of these forums is to support, express and share opinions. Voicing an opinion does not inherently categorize me or anyone else as a naysayer, a skeptic or mean. The term "naysayer" has been so worn and wrongly applied on tinnitus forums it has all but been bled of any significance. Please attempt to know someone before asserting to all you know their character. As I've said: the only way to know if scenar works is to try it and I wish those who try it the best of luck.

The charge is for a 35 page document, which took me 10 days to write, probes, each pair taking 90 minutes to make, with a raw material cost of 10, and ongoing email help. This is a little bit more than what you have stated.

I don't belive that any audiologists in the UK anyway, are experienced with this device. Had I gone straight to the professionals, I am sure they would have dismissed it, or at the least taken years with ineffective trials, because they hadn't applied it properly, as my input would have been minimal, because I am not a professional. I expect a battle and I can't fight it with only positive results from me, I NEED results in others to back up my claims.

Guys, I've been using the Scenar on and off for about 9 months with limited success.
I was in contact with Zeph the first few months of use. I think Zeph and I traded information 6 or 7 times. I've done many hours of research on the scenar- but Zeph has devoted his life to this unique machine.
The scenar experts out there don't specialize in Tinnitus. Truly, Zeph may be the best source for this Scenar information.
He's not going to get rich unless he really has a major breakthrough. He can't force anyone to buy anything, and he's not asking for donations(but I think he could). But, I do hope for his success and ours.
djmatco