Pulmonary Embolism Support Group
By far the most common form of pulmonary embolism is a thromboembolism, which occurs when a blood clot, generally a venous thrombus, becomes dislodged from its site of formation and embolizes to the arterial blood supply of one of the lungs. Symptoms may include difficulty breathing, pain during breathing, and more rarely circulatory instability and death.
Training following PE and possible causes of PE.
Hi Guys how are things? I hope everybody is doing ok.To recap.I entered hospital for BVT and Bi-lateral PE on 13tyh of january and was discharged on 22nd of january.I was on xarelta until the 28th of January when I switched to Eliquis due to rash swelled leg and intense chest pain.I was told by my consultant that I could not do any intense exercise until I met him in March 6th.However he was aware that I was walking for an hour on the treadmill and that I had begun cycling.I started off cycling for a half hour then bunked it up to an hour.So my training regime was an hour walk on treadmill and an hour cycle.The cycling level was level 14.there are 25 levels and there was no hills or slops.So I dont know if this is considered intense.I put it to my friend that I wasnt going all out on the cycle but it was fast not a leisurely stroll on bike.Anyhow the training was going on for 2.5 to three weeks.I did Monday Tuesday and Wednesday of this week but had to stop yesterday and I am not able to train or am not going to rather today.The reason is as follows:When I switched from xarelto to Eliquis the intense chest pain left me over night and instead on Eliquis I had the same chest pain but with less intensity and frequency.Then I thought it had disappeared but I knew the problem was simply there but dormant.I knew for example that were I to get the go ahead for intense exercise in March everything would simply fall to pieces and that the pain would return.Anyhow this week on Wednesday the pain came back.It is on the pectoral area that is the closest to your underarm.The pain is on the chest but lirterally under the left arm.At times it spreads up my left arm up as far as the elbow and I can feel a tightness.Its like somone has wrapped elastic bands on my arm.This is the exact same type of pain I had when I was on the xarelto.When I meet my consultant in march I will mention this to him as well as the hematologist in April.But how can I ,they or any of us really tell the difference between post PE pain or pain due to the medication.if I took a year off exercise and then tried this same exercise regime again would I sill have the same pain.I'm guessing I would.Also if this pain is post PE pain then changing from xarelto to eliquis wouldnt have dramtically reduced it overnight.It would have stayed the same.But changing to Eliquis indeed did reduce it but its there and comes right back if I push myself.A doctot on the net said that post pe syndrome with chest pain is usually mild and that there is no specific treatment for it just time and exercise.Well exercise is not helping.The chest pain is not anxiety stress nor is it cardio problems its either PE complications or the med.Thats the first bit
Second bit is the cause. I'll know more when I speak to hematologist in April re: bloods and clotting disorders.However I was on a medication for mental health and the side effect profile said 1 in a100 get DVT and PE.After this I discontinued this med to rule it out.Finally I was admittted on 13th of january but on 11th of december I started creatine.I stopped taking it a week before going into hospital.Dyhydration caused by the water retention properties of this drug can cause DVT.Dvt is listed as a side effect of this drug on a government website in my country for drug abuse.Anyhow when i was admitted my liver functioning was abnormal but it is now normal.So Im guessing it was due to one of these the mental health med or the creatine.Creatine is widely used by athletes to enhance sports performances and increase muscle mass without significant concern of adverse risk to health. However, creatine supplementation could cause water to be drawn into the muscles by the osmotic effect produced by an increase in intracellular creatine.1 This could lead to dehydration, especially in a hot environment, and cases of heat stroke have been reported among users.2 To prevent this, many creatine manufacturers advocate adequate hydration when taking creatine. Dehydration also is a known precipitating factor for venous thromboembolism.
If I had my time back I wouldnt have taken the creatine.I stopped because I didnt feel well on it.please click on this link for more info on possibility of heavy lifting plus supplement use and PE occurence.https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/did-pre-wedding-bodybuilding-cause-my-deep-vein-thrombosis-1.2870186
Thanks for listening and your comments would be welcome.
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We all have 24 hours in a day. How we spend these hours is important. Watching a little bit of a video about how sitting affects us made me aware of how much sitting and laying down I do. Gonna have to work on that.Your turn. Tell me another truth.
I'm just a little peeved that you don't get more info on this when they are discharging you.Like how long it takes before you can return to training following something like this and more importantly why it takes so long. if a doctor says you need to heal I want more info like what exactly needs to heal and what is causing the pain.if he says dont train intensely I need him to tell me why and what would happen if I did.
I used be a fast healer but when i bruised ribs last year i was told 4-6 weeks but it took 4 months.I think the older you get the slower healing is.I am prepared to walk for a year and take a break from intense stuff.But if I go again with high energy exercise next year and the same thing happens I'll freak out.I placed a bet with someone that i will never heal and never be able to exercise again.This may not be true and is highly unlikely but I believe it fervently.Focusing on the negative.The psychological recovery from this is hard.Thank you both again for your support.
I think you just have to try to relax, try to be active but maybe take a more “ease into it” approach.