I have never gotten one but my primary suggested that I check with my neuro to see if I can. My neuro said that I can if I want to but he confessed that he does not get one.

someone sent this to my email today:

fwiw, source unknown:



Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 14:48


WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE FLU SHOT?

EVERYTHING IS WRONG WITH THE FLU SHOT

By Dr. Richard Schulze

First, Experts say it doesn't work!


"There is no evidence that any influenza vaccine thus far developed is
effective in preventing or mitigating any attack of influenza. The producers
of these vaccines know that they are worthless, but they go on selling them
anyway." Dr. J. Anthony Morris (former Chief Vaccine Control Officer at the
FDA.)


Let's look at the facts...


The flu shot has never been proven to be effective. Many experts worldwide
now agree that it has never worked and that the rise and fall of all
disease, especially influenza, is based on our immune system's antibody
response and self-education process and not because of medical meddling.

The main reason many experts believe influenza vaccines don't work is
because of a natural scientific phenomenon called Antigenic Shift and Drift.
Darwin may not have been right with his Theory of Evolution and my great,
great-grandmother may not have been a chimp but his theory proves very valid
when it comes to viruses. Viruses do evolve, they change from one form to
another. So every year, actually every few weeks, the old virus has become a
very new virus.


Even the federal government's Center for Disease Control states that
"Influenza (flu) seasons are unpredictable. Although epidemics of flu happen
in most years, the beginning, severity, and length of the'Epidemic can vary
widely from year to year. Before a season begins, it is not possible to
accurately predict the features of any season.'


The simple reason it's impossible to predict the coming influenza seasons
virus is because it is impossible to predict the future, Even if one got
lucky and guessed right, the next influenza virus is never just one virus.
All influenza viruses are a blend of many different strains and many
different types of virus. So the odds of you finding one particular grain of
sand in all the beaches in California are far better than any medical doctor
guessing next year's viral cocktail. Next years, even next week's, virus
will be a totally new, different mutated blend of multiple influenza
viruses. And remember, even that new blend of virus is constantly in a state
of flux. Here it is again, Antigenic Shift and Drift


So every year pharmaceutical companies make the flu vaccine based on . . .
LAST YEAR'S INFLUENZA. Even though throughout history no influenza epidemic
virus blend has ever repeated itself ever, or has ever been the same. In
fact if you made one today to protect you from the exact virus that is
spreading right now, by the time it was produced and used the virus would
have already shifted and drifted many times and mutated into a completely
different virus. Even the pharmaceutical manufacturers admit that this is a
serious problem, but also "places serious doubts on the effectiveness of the
influenza vaccine."


The only validity for manufacturing and using the Influenza Vaccines is
financial, as trillions of dollars are being made on vaccine manufacture and
usage.


Secondly, the statistics prove it doesn't work!


So regardless which experts are right no matter what they say, the
statistics speak for themselves. A few decades ago less than 100,000 people
were hospitalized with the flu. Last year it doubled to over 200,000. A few
decades ago less than 20,000 people a year died from the flu. Last year it
was over 40,000, doubled again. In the last 20 years the American population
has only increased about 25%, but hospitalizations and deaths from influenza
have increased 100%. You tell me, is the flu shot working?


What we absolutely do know about the flu vaccine is that it has killed,
maimed and made a lot of people sick, I still remember the federal
government's swine flu vaccination program when, for the first time ever,
the government tried to give every American the swine flu influenza vaccine.
When the fear, panic, bureaucracy, medical folly and pharmaceutical scandal
cleared, 25 times more people died from the swine flu influenza vaccine than
actually died from the swine flu, and thousands were seriously injured with
numerous neurological and immune diseases. Worse yet, many medical experts
today now believe that the influenza vaccine actually attacks and weakens
your immune system and makes you even MORE susceptible to getting infected
with influenza.


Now, in case you are still not sure, let's look at a few of the flu shot's
ingredients.


Third, the flu shot ingredients are toxic chemical poisons!

Ethyl Glycol Automobile Anti-Freeze

Carbolic Acid A toxic caustic poison


Formaldehyde Embalming Fluid, causes cancer Causes Alzheimer's Disease,
seizures and cancer


Mercury Extremely toxic heavy metal, kills brain and immune cells

If you had five consecutive flu shots in any decade your chance of getting
Alzheimer's Disease is TEN TIMES HIGHER. This is partially due to the
mercury and aluminum that is in every flu shot (and most childhood shots)
that builds up in the brain and causes cognitive dysfunction and disease.
This is partially why the rate of Alzheimer's Disease is skyrocketing.

And I haven't even touched on the blend of numerous deadly viruses and
infected animal tissue that is in the vaccine.


The mercury alone is a great reason why not to get one. Mercury is a heavy
metal and even minimal exposure to it kills brain and nerve cells. It is
deadly poisonous. Knowingly infecting any amount of mercury into the human
body is insane. I would gladly inject heroin into myself long before I would
inject any flu vaccine. At least heroin is made from an herb, the poppy.

There has been much research done over the last decade linking the mercury
in childhood vaccinations to childhood brain and nerve diseases, First off
we know that there has never been one single case of autism in children
before mercury laden childhood vaccinations were used. This fact alone
points a very suspicious finger at mercury poisoning from vaccines. In fact
the first known epidemic of cerebral palsy was in 1950 in Minimata Bay,
Japan and it was discovered to be caused by a vinyl plastics company that
dumped mercury into the bay.


But fearing multi-billion dollar, maybe even trillion dollar class action
lawsuits, medical and pharmaceutical groups have declared that the
preservative Thimerosal in vaccines is very safe, even though Thimerosal is
49% Mercury! The pharmaceutical vaccine manufacturers have stated that there
is "no credible evidence" showing any link between the mercury in the
vaccines and autism. But in case there is, they have further stated that
"the well defined risk of influenza outweighs the theoretical risk of
mercury."

So the medical and drug cartels have declared injecting mercury safe, but at
the exact same time every one of them is currently scurrying to remove
mercury from all childhood vaccines. Why? What do they know that they are
not telling us. If it's safe, why remove it? Regardless, no attempt is being
made to remove it from the influenza vaccine.

One thing we know for sure is that mercury kills the brain and nerves, so I
don't think this is a good idea for children, or adults. As I age, I need
all the brain and nerve cells that I've got)

And even if the mercury, anti-freeze and animal pus doesn't scare you, you
probably won't even be able to buy a flu shot on the black market anyway,
because this year half of the influenza vaccine, some 50 million doses, has
been banned from being used, because... they are contaminated, because they
are toxic.


FINALLY...

Look, everyone, including me, agrees that the influenza epidemic that rages
across America every year is dangerous, even deadly. But the key to
protecting yourself is not by injecting virus strains grown on infected
pus-laden animal tissue mixed with powerful toxic chemicals into your body,
That's a great way to make yourself sick.

Larry,
You know I love ya guy, but for heavens sake, where did you find that? If you look long enough on the internet you can find some 'nut' saying what you want to believe.

Hun, it's your choice to take, or not take the shot. I'll defend your right to make a choice. But friend, please . . . don't put false fears in people's minds.

As olelady said, we take the shot not only for ourselves, put to protect the ones we love. There are loved ones out there that could die if we gave them the flu. . . in all the years I've gotten the shot not one thing has happened.

There may be some whose doc says it's not a wise idea to get the shot . . . I take it for them too.

An Larry, I take it for friends like you as well. While I don't agree with what you're saying, it's your right, and I care about you very much as well.

someone sent it to me.

but, you're right, I should be leaving the internet, I've had enough

heres an older article by a internist. its well documented

http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?p=534

yeah, but just because something may be HARMFUL and THE TRUTH EXPOSED is no reason to share it with people who are TAKING THE VACCINES

why SCARE them, when they could just get sick and WISH they'd have HEARD something?

I always hear people say "WHY DIDN'T SOMEONE TELL ME?"

but the people willing to SAY are SHUT DOWN

I don't care any more.

((((((((((((((((((( Larry ))))))))))))))))))))))))) It is ok hun. WE dont know of anything to be true on the internet anyways rite? We can find somthing always to contradict what we or others believe. WHO knows if it is true. I have heard so much over the years Vaccinate vs. dont vaccinate IT is a crap shoot. WE have been less ILL ever since we have been vaccinating. I would guess that somthing must be working IN a perfect world We should not tamper with creation. BUT we are in a sinful Sick world. We fight or flight. Imagine all of the diseases we would still be dealing with IF we didnt have vaccines. I am glad u Shed light on the other side of the spectrum. IT is so difficult to know what is rite tho.
I called my Neuro cause I was wondering and she said Absoultly. BUT I was just talking to my hubby and he works with alot of very ill people. He has never had a flu shot. Only been sick once with the actual flu. U wanna know a trick. HE is the LESS STRESSED OUT PERSON I KNOW. HE IS NEVER EVER SICK. I am serious. I believe my hubby holds the cure. NOW we all have to learn to be STRESS FREE!!!!!!!! LMAO RITE! We are so opposite of each other... I think I will skip the vaccine this year. I have only had the flu shot a couple of times in my life. I have only REALLY had the "FLU" ONE time. I was in bed for 7 days. That was the only time Terry was sick with it too. HE has never had to take time off from work cause of being sick.

Thank you for responding. I have never had the shot and have always worked around alot of people nursing homes, daycare centers, with MIs and DDs along with retail. I never got the flu until last year and that was awful for theMS not to mention I got it twice. I am frieghtened to get the flu again even more about the shot. I have read alot of what Larry is saying and I really feel that we are not being told everything about vaccinations. I am though fearful of getting the flu again but know I can do alot to prevent it by taking care of self etc. I was looking for others experiences to help me decide what to do. I get alot of grief from my mother though since her grandmother died shorlty after having my grandma of the flu durng the panedemic in 1917. Thanks so much for all your imput it has been helpful!

annie, get your doc to give you tamiflu. If you take it as soon as you are exposed, it lessens or stops the effect. Last winter it made my spasticity disappear too. I will never take a flu shot because the placebo effect would not work for me.

I have been getting the flu shot every year since 1992. Before that I got the flu every other year, always followed by a respiratory infection or pneumonia. I have asthma. I have never gotten an attack following a vaccination, or had the flu since 1991. I participated in a study in 2003 of MS patients who had never taken DMDs but who received flu vaccines. I didn't have an attack that year either. The results of that test showed no evidence that there was any relationship between receiving the vaccine and relapsing, beyond the statistical odds that a person would have an attack because they were going to have one anyway. If no one ever had an attack following receiving a vaccine that would actually constitute circumstantial evidence that the vaccine was having a PREVENTATIVE effect on the incidence of MS relapse. The law of averages simply predicts that SOME people WILL have attacks following a flu shot.
I did however, have a really major and prolonged attack following an MMR vaccine I was forced to take in 2000, in order to enroll in college again, because my childhood records had been lost. I suffered for eight months from progressive cognitive loss (which ultimately caused me to have to drop out of university - ironic, huh?) diploplia, ocular neuritis, severe ataxia and fatigue in legs, dysphagia, lost sensation in legs, complete cessation of sweating causing repeated heat prostration, loss of balance, just to name the more prominent sx's. I have read that there is some evidence that MMR has been circumstantially implicated in causing relapse. Not from any US research, or course...(at least not the last time I read about it).
I will stick with getting the vaccine, for my money: I know that I'm much more likely to have a relapse following a case of pneumonia, just based on my own PERSONAL experience. Everyone has to decide for themselves whether they're ok with vaccination or not. I'm not saying anyone should or shouldn't. I do think that it's good to read up on both sides of the issue before making an informed decision. Hope that's any help!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bDRB0Ky0ytU&feature=PlayList&p=FEAAE6DB059485E1&index=81&playnext=20&playnext_from=PL
well, I don't make this stuff up... and I have a cousin who told me about PI a few years back.. nothing that goes there, leaves there, except for some HC employees

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eYbC0Qxvme0&feature=PlayList&p=FEAAE6DB059485E1&index=82&playnext=21&playnext_from=PL

I'm sorry, but these people took a lot of time to produce these videos... if nothing else, ya gotta ask yourself WHY?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfsum_yHL84&feature=PlayList&p=FEAAE6DB059485E1&index=87&playnext=4&playnext_from=PL you can't just make this stuff up, can you? esp when Google searches show the same info?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DQfHd92UgPs&feature=PlayList&p=FEAAE6DB059485E1&index=89&playnext=6&playnext_from=PL

everybody's favorite, Alex Jones

he says there are major university studies saying if you take it 3 years in a row your potential for altzheimers goes way up


so is this alex jones the other side of rush ?

I used to always get the flu shot. My neuro is at the cleveland clinic in Ft. Lauderdale and they said NO MORE flu shot cause it does stuff with the MS and can lead to heart attack and other stuff. It interferes with interferon and what not. GOod luck.