Gambling Addiction & Recovery Support Group
Compulsive gambling is an urge or addiction to gamble despite harmful negative consequences or a desire to stop. A preferred term among many professionals is problem gambling, as few people described by the term experience true compulsions in the clinical sense of the word. Problem gambling often is defined by whether harm is experienced by the gambler or others rather...
Most gamblers can't be trusted with money unless you want to live in denial and hide your head in the sand.
I know how you feel and pray for you. You'll find a lot of information here.
See if your husband will agree to letting you take over the fianances of the house. Trust me when I tell you that no bills will get paid. In the beginning, our agreement was that I take care of the mortgage and my husband takes care of the rest. Well, one day I happened to be cleaning out the closet and took our coats out of the closet. Electrical bills and our gas bills fell out of the pockets of many of his coats. I saw red notices and opened them. I found out that he had not been paying the bills and we were on the list to have our utilities shut off. I had to move fast and luckily in the savings account I had the money to pay them off, but it leterally depleated our savings. I decided then that he could no longer be over paying bills.
One thing I never do is hide the fact that I know he is lying when he does or that he has messed up something like me having to depleat our savings at the time. I let him know, I know you are lying, I know you went to the casino, I know you blew you paycheck. My thinking is if I beat him to the punch before he has to create a lie, that is what I will do.
I suggest that you keep coming here and talking. That has helped me immensely. I have learned so much here. One thing I know for sure is that you must take care of you and your children if you have any. You can not change a CG. They must do that for themselves. Now, my husbands new thing is to tell me that he is going to get help. I am always positive when he says it, but he has said it many times before. I always tell him that "actions and ways speak louder then words", meaning, don't jst talk about it, be about it.
This is your husband, and I know you love him. I love mine with every fiber of my being. He is my bestfriend. Literally we have been bestfriends since highschool. I knew him when he was not gambling. I look at him and see the wear and tear on him. He is beginning to look old and worn out. That is hard to watch. I am 38 and he is 39. He is graying alot now. But, all I can do is sit and watch. I know there is nothing I can do but pray for him. But, in all of this, he still has not hit the bottom.
Even if you don't say it, technically, you are the only "sane" one in your home right now. Your husband isn't capable at this time to think and act rationally. So, you are the head. You don't have to talk about it, "be about it"!! You will hav to step up and take over. This doesn't have to be a discussion, because this is something that your husband will never agree to. I just took over. I knew that if I let him continue to "say" he was doing what he was supposed to and promised to do, it wouldn't get done. Then we would be without lights, gas, water, cable, phone, cellphones. Is this right or fair that I do this, no!! But, I can't not have these. I have been blessed to be able to do this. And, when he does come through and not gamble all his money away, I use what he gives me and I stack it. But, trust me, him contributing is rare now because he blows it at the casino.
You are already taking a step in the right direction, you admit that you had given your power over to your husband. Now, you recognize that he can't have that power because he is a CG. Admitting that is alot. You aren't in denial. Now, you have to plan and strategize. And to be honest, I wouldn't include him in the planning sessions. You will be making decisions and thinking for the both of you. This is what I do, and if I had not, I would be in a world of trouble. You can do it.
As far as the promises to do better, block the gambling, signing off the casinos, going to GA........ I have told my husband "just do it". I am not and wil not believe a word until I see it done. Telling me you are going to do it means nothing . This may sound harsh, but I have heard it so many times, and nothing comes to pass. So this is empty to me. When he acts on what he says then I will listen and pay attention.
I think it is wonderful that you have taken the steps to go back to school and prpare yourself to take over and care for you and your children. And in essence, you may be taking over and being the head of your household. Something, that he has dropped the ball on. Knowledge is key, when you know better, you wil do better. That is truly how I feel. I have learned so much and am still learning here.
So on to you gingye...girl, I don't know where you live but I'm about to drive over and get you myself! Seriously, do you have a bunch of kids or no car or no family or what? You need to open the phone book TODAY and walk to the nearest phone where ever that may be and call a woman's abuse hotline like, now. I'm not saying your being beaten and stuff but seriously if you are sitting in a house w/no phone, no tv, no power, no food, etc w/a man who won't "let you have access" to money, then honey...that ain't good!!! I think the (generally it's a) woman who answers the phone will definately be able to give you some guidence as to what avenues are available to you in your area to improve your situation! They're gonna like, know the name of a church that offers free counseling so you have someone to talk to, or how to go about getting yourself a job/schooling, or what goverment programs you qualify for, or like, legally what you can do about your access to the money, etc. 'cos it's not just about taking over the bill paying, cos realisticlly, whatcha gonna pay them with if he's spending it all? (cos that's what I'm dealing w/) It's about knowledge of options and I think it would be a place to start...say I need some help and I don't know who to call, can you help me? and I betcha they can!
YES, there are things you need to know and DO!!! If your name is being used in an email, it is possible that credit has been taken out in your name as well.
Check YOUR credit history free at this site: https://www.annualcreditreport.com/cra/index.jsp It allows you one free credit check each year. If you request the report via email, it gives you immediate view of your credit. DO IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
If credit has been taken out in your name, you'll see it. Contact the credit card companies as soon as possible to let them know you did not open those accounts.
I know about his because my husband of 16 years began taking credit out in my name fraudulently after ruining his own. He is an on-line poker player and also frequent visitor of casinos and home table games. I did not know for a long time.
He is self-employed; he would come home during the day to pick up the mail before I got home from work. He would mail the minimum balance to the credit card companies and then throw away the monthly bill. This went on for some time.
From your post I know you do not work. But, if at all possible, see how much a PO Box at the post office is and save up to have a PO Box opened and redirect your and husbands mail there. Hopefully, you have transportation, if so you can start picking up the mail to see what is coming in.
In my state we have a law for married couples called Dissipation of Marital Assets (may be helpful toward debts which have incurred since the marriage that has gone toward gambling). Contact Legal Aid, or an attorney who does pro bono work, or gives free consultation, to talk about your situation.
Meet with your bank, explain your CG spouses situation (banks are very understanding they have seen this problem grow exponentially over the past couple of years they may be able to advise).
If your spouse is physically, emotionally and/or mentally abusive (which is definitely correct of the latter two) find a domestic abuse shelter. Talk with them about your situation... They will advise and put you in touch with local organizations that can further help.
You may FEEL that you cannot do this, or that your situation is not as bad as you think... IT IS BAD. It will continue to worsen.
Contact/join an Gamanon group in your area. Here is a link to Gamanon's site: http://www.gam-anon.org - call the number for your area... they care, they will send you material.
Hard decisions lie ahead. But you will face a much harder situation if something is not done now. Realize you DO have a choice.
Loving someone does not mean you have to go down the tube with them. Sometimes loving someone means stepping aside so they can fall on their own and learn to get up on their own; or cry out to One Who can help them back on their feet.
After 10 years of steady gambling, my husband made a decision earlier this year to leave. It was his home for 20 years, he left behind pretty much everything: home, land, and family. He took whatever fit into his truck: some clothes, his laptop, the reclyner, the bed, and a cedar chest.
This is a very good site. There are many people here who know what you are going thru.
My heart goes out to you. debby
WEll I read all the discussion entries on this thread.. Wowsers some good reads.. Thanks Ladies.
I am a compulsive gambler.. and for me:
I needed to be confronted, stopped in my tracks.As long as I could hood wink my spouse I did it. I lost respect for HIm and I.
This is an illness/disease, and will bankrupt in a NEW YORK SECOND.
It does't matter what 'gender, or High in STatus in Commuinity.. It will rob, rape and 'leave all in a lump of 'clay.
The Good thing about Clay , is ': it can be molded anew ; but someone has to add the ''hands and water.. lol..
computers are a wonderful technolgy.. saddly a place to gamble also..
But 'gambling sites require 'credit cards.
and Venues don't take food stamps..or buy our junk..so we can place a bet.
Gosh I would not have had to do yard sales eh?
HOw I sold, pawned, borrowed, stole monies to 'further my bets.. As long as I could get away with my smooth LIes.. I did..
BEing Cruel to Be Kind is not a New SAying it has been around ''a zillion years.
The hardest was learning how to be 'Kind in 'being 'Cruel which guilt stops.
For me.
When I 'started Recovery , not only did I have a committment to stop on a daily basis.
I had an assingment of committing to my relationship.
NO committment no ''notten..
Marriage is a Committment. NO Committment no marriage, it's just a legal paper and a ceramony church event .
Honestly 'when I started my Recovery, I did not love anyone. I did not love myself.
I said I Love you .. but it was Lip Service during my gambling and after.
When I learned to love myself again I 'was free to show, give Love and Mean it when I said it.
I Know from past experiences of being on the receiving end of a marriage with alcohol addiciton. I 'was the enabler then.
Alanon saved my Life. I had to get help or Die .
It did not save my Marriage. ; but it led me out of abuse. Neglect is Abuse. I suffered physical and verbal abuse at the hands of LIes that I believed.
IN my Gambing I did what 'was done to me except I did not verbally or physically abuse my spouse.
But what I did in 'behaviours 'was just as bad. I used his memory lapses. His stashes I stole from him . Avoided talking, skirted all issues. Only told half truths. Just to get him off my back or away from the Subject I was guilty of..
All a smoke screen. and if it works 'I worked it.
For me < I 'gambled and 'I could lie , cuz I could dismiss on a bet .
When money ran out. I would 'apologise. ; but given a new payday. BAck to the LIes.
As long as I could convince my hubby , I
ketp gambling.
When I stopped ..I hated myself so bad .. I was sick , sick enough to 'reach out for help.
I am glad my spouse 'finally got 'strong, got healthy and ''confronted me.. and would not let me 'skirt, avoid, or dismiss him .
That 'was the DAy I learned to Respect HIM again.
Committment is 'a two way 'decision.
One cannot make a marriage. or hold it together , it may look good, but , Denial sure is one strong LIE>
Thats my thoughts for now..
Please get help, For YOU. not HIm.. 'Let the gambler get his own help. As long as you are getting help for him,, he gets sicker.
Like I was told in Alanon , the whole family gets sick.. Amen. was true for me.
We all had roles friends, family etc.
Sandra gams5.