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Really interesting article including a new treatment that is help in some.
NEW RESEARCH SHEDS LIGHT ON MYSTERIOUS FIBROMYALGIA PAIN
Dec. 15, 2013 7:03 AM |
Fibromyalgia affects 1% to 5% of Americans, mainly women, but until recently, scientists had no idea what might be causing its severe and mysterious pains. For decades, doctors told patients their agony was imaginary, the result of emotional hysteria, not a physical ailment.
But this year, researchers finally began to get a handle on the condition.
"What's happened is in 2013 there's been this absolute explosion of papers," says neurologist Anne Louise Oaklander at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston. "The whole view on this has shifted."
Oaklander published two studies this year showing that half or more of the cases of fibromyalgia are really a little-known condition affecting the nerves. People with this small-fiber neuropathy get faulty signals from tiny nerves all over the body, including internal organs, causing an odd constellation of symptoms from pain to sleep and digestive problems that overlap with symptoms of fibromyalgia.
Neuroscientist Frank Rice and a team based at Albany Medical College also discovered that there are excessive nerve fibers lining the blood vessels of the skin of fibromyalgia patients - removing any doubt that the condition is physically real.
These fibers in the skin can sense blood flow and control the dilation and constriction of vessels to regulate body temperature, Rice says, as well as direct nutrients to muscles during exercise. Women have more of these fibers than men, he says, perhaps explaining why they are much more likely to get fibromyalgia.
"Blood vessel nerve fibers are an important target that haven't been in our line of thinking to date in chronic pain conditions," says Rice, now president and chief scientist at Integrated Tissue Dynamics LLC, a biotechnology research company in Rensselaer, N.Y.
In recent years, scans of patients with fibromyalgia have revealed brain changes associated with pain, but the new research suggests these are a symptom rather than the cause of the condition.
This new understanding of fibromyalgia will hopefully lead to better treatments, Rice and Oaklander say.
Right now, most people are treated with the antidepressants Cymbalta made by Eli Lilly, or Savella by Forest Pharmaceuticals, or with Lyrica, a seizure medication from Pfizer - which have all been federally approved for use in fibromyalgia.
But these drugs have side effects and don't help everyone.
"We're looking now to understand more about other features of the pathology that might lead to a more targeted approach and less of a shotgun that causes side effects," says Rice, also an adjunct professor at the University at Albany, State University of New York.
The trigger for fibromyalgia is still a mystery, although stressful events in patients' past have been thought to play a role.
Rheumatologist Richard Chou says there is some preliminary evidence that the nerve damage is caused by the immune system.
"We're hoping some day we'll be able to say exactly how your immune system is causing damage to the sensory nerves that results in fibromyalgia pain," says Chou, an assistant professor at the Geisel School of Medicine at Dartmouth in New Hampshire. Researchers don't yet know whether the pain causes the other problems of fibromyalgia - disrupting sleep, for instance - or whether both pain and sleep disturbances share the same cause.
Fibromyalgia's constellation of symptoms is very similar to those of chronic fatigue syndrome and Gulf War syndrome, which Oaklander's group also studies. "If someone has more of one symptom than another they might call it one thing, like chronic fatigue, but it's not clear that these are different," Oaklander says.
She says researchers still have a lot to learn about these conditions, but scientists are taking them more seriously and making real progress for the first time.
Carolyn DiSilva of Maynard, Mass., one of Oaklander's patients, says she was stunned to learn that she had small-fiber neuropathy caused by an overactive immune system, instead of fibromyalgia.
"I think a lot of people, they get a blanket diagnosis as fibromyalgia because doctors don't know what's wrong with them," says DiSilva, 47, who has suffered from unexplained pains for about 14 years. The non-stop agony and the pins and needles that plagued her for hours at a time forced her to give up her work as a hair stylist, she says.
Understanding what's causing her pain has helped her, she says, because doctors and others take her problems seriously, instead of dismissing her as they used to do.
And now that it's clear DiSilva has an immune problem, Oaklander has put her on intravenous immunoglobulin treatments - instead of conventional fibromyalgia therapy - which seem to be making a profound difference in her health.
DiSilva says her pain has dropped from a 10 on a 10-point scale to about a 4.
"I always hope that someday I'll wake up with no pain, but I'm so grateful that I've come this far."
Copyright 2013 USATODAY.com
Has anyone had this immunoglobulin treatment? Did it help?
NEW RESEARCH SHEDS LIGHT ON MYSTERIOUS FIBROMYALGIA PAIN
Dec. 15, 2013 7:03 AM |
Fibromyalgia affects 1% to 5% of Americans, mainly women, but until recently, scientists had no idea what might be causing its severe and mysterious pains. For decades, doctors told patients their agony was imaginary, the result of emotional hysteria, not a physical ailment.
But this year, researchers finally began to get a handle on the condition.
"What's happened is in 2013 there's been this absolute explosion of papers," says neurologist Anne Louise Oaklander at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston. "The whole view on this has shifted."
Oaklander published two studies this year showing that half or more of the cases of fibromyalgia are really a little-known condition affecting the nerves. People with this small-fiber neuropathy get faulty signals from tiny nerves all over the body, including internal organs, causing an odd constellation of symptoms from pain to sleep and digestive problems that overlap with symptoms of fibromyalgia.
Neuroscientist Frank Rice and a team based at Albany Medical College also discovered that there are excessive nerve fibers lining the blood vessels of the skin of fibromyalgia patients - removing any doubt that the condition is physically real.
These fibers in the skin can sense blood flow and control the dilation and constriction of vessels to regulate body temperature, Rice says, as well as direct nutrients to muscles during exercise. Women have more of these fibers than men, he says, perhaps explaining why they are much more likely to get fibromyalgia.
"Blood vessel nerve fibers are an important target that haven't been in our line of thinking to date in chronic pain conditions," says Rice, now president and chief scientist at Integrated Tissue Dynamics LLC, a biotechnology research company in Rensselaer, N.Y.
In recent years, scans of patients with fibromyalgia have revealed brain changes associated with pain, but the new research suggests these are a symptom rather than the cause of the condition.
This new understanding of fibromyalgia will hopefully lead to better treatments, Rice and Oaklander say.
Right now, most people are treated with the antidepressants Cymbalta made by Eli Lilly, or Savella by Forest Pharmaceuticals, or with Lyrica, a seizure medication from Pfizer - which have all been federally approved for use in fibromyalgia.
But these drugs have side effects and don't help everyone.
"We're looking now to understand more about other features of the pathology that might lead to a more targeted approach and less of a shotgun that causes side effects," says Rice, also an adjunct professor at the University at Albany, State University of New York.
The trigger for fibromyalgia is still a mystery, although stressful events in patients' past have been thought to play a role.
Rheumatologist Richard Chou says there is some preliminary evidence that the nerve damage is caused by the immune system.
"We're hoping some day we'll be able to say exactly how your immune system is causing damage to the sensory nerves that results in fibromyalgia pain," says Chou, an assistant professor at the Geisel School of Medicine at Dartmouth in New Hampshire. Researchers don't yet know whether the pain causes the other problems of fibromyalgia - disrupting sleep, for instance - or whether both pain and sleep disturbances share the same cause.
Fibromyalgia's constellation of symptoms is very similar to those of chronic fatigue syndrome and Gulf War syndrome, which Oaklander's group also studies. "If someone has more of one symptom than another they might call it one thing, like chronic fatigue, but it's not clear that these are different," Oaklander says.
She says researchers still have a lot to learn about these conditions, but scientists are taking them more seriously and making real progress for the first time.
Carolyn DiSilva of Maynard, Mass., one of Oaklander's patients, says she was stunned to learn that she had small-fiber neuropathy caused by an overactive immune system, instead of fibromyalgia.
"I think a lot of people, they get a blanket diagnosis as fibromyalgia because doctors don't know what's wrong with them," says DiSilva, 47, who has suffered from unexplained pains for about 14 years. The non-stop agony and the pins and needles that plagued her for hours at a time forced her to give up her work as a hair stylist, she says.
Understanding what's causing her pain has helped her, she says, because doctors and others take her problems seriously, instead of dismissing her as they used to do.
And now that it's clear DiSilva has an immune problem, Oaklander has put her on intravenous immunoglobulin treatments - instead of conventional fibromyalgia therapy - which seem to be making a profound difference in her health.
DiSilva says her pain has dropped from a 10 on a 10-point scale to about a 4.
"I always hope that someday I'll wake up with no pain, but I'm so grateful that I've come this far."
Copyright 2013 USATODAY.com
Has anyone had this immunoglobulin treatment? Did it help?
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Thanks a lot for this
We can learn to manage pain but the chronic fatigue can be disabling. The sleep issue seems to be a "core" symptom--Lack of deep sleep prevents muscle and tissue repair during restorative sleep. That seems to start the cycle. Now is it pain causing the sleep interruption--we know pain can still be felt while we are sleeping.
Not too long ago, they thought depression may have been misdiagnosed as FMS. Sleep problems are often a symptom of depression so achiness may result if they can not get into deep sleep. They say anyone sleep-deprived for a period of time will become achy and exhibit some of the symptoms of fibromyalgia. Maybe if the symptoms of depression are treated successfully, they are the patients that recover or go into an unexplainable remission.
It would be logical to believe it is neurochemical since there doesn't seem to be one particular drug or treatment that fits all--in fact a lot of us have unusual drug reactions to a lot of medications. I take an older drug but remember it took months to titrate.
It would be wonderful if they could fix us and restore us back to pre-fibro days! Never give up hope. The fact that they now take it seriously is positive. What I wish would come out also is all the unusual symptoms that come along with it and how many specialists we end up seeing to rule out other illnesses--the fact that many of these symptoms require medical evaluation. Of course, then they usually can find nothing and speaking for myself here, I have felt I wasn't believed and questioned my own sanity at times! This is part of the distress FMS causes.
I'd like to know also, why MPS often accompanies FMS as do a couple things including arthritis. It would be nice having these questions answered--so many people seem to be developing these conditions. I know it has been around forever, but has it been on the increase? Maybe someday they will sort this all through. Anyway, thanks for sharing the interesting article.
Last month some researchers proclaimed that it wasn't in our heads it was in our hands. A few years ago they said it was XMRV.
I guess it's good that ANY research is being done because I've been sick with this for 15 yrs!
Learning about this study is just one of the reasons I LOVE DS. There are problems, sure, but the good far outweighs them.
The one thing I don't buy is the stress. I developed fibro in my fifties. Show me one person in their 50s who hasn't had major stressors. At least, if stress is a trigger, it is stress plus something else.
My local VA HOospital is doing an immunological study and I already called them.
Again, thanks for posting.
Emily as I understand it, individuals with fibromyalgia have low serotonin. This low serotonin makes us more vulnerable to the effects of ANY stressful event. Stressful events are considered to be anything that puts strain on the body, such as: physical trauma to the body, viruses, repetitive injuries to the body etc. These stressful
events further deplete an already low serotonin buffer.
Best Wishes to all!
we have seen these research results before about the blood vessels and small fiber NP, and, as cocoa mentioned, serotonin.... Or it is EBV or XMRV or no V at alll.....
I think fibro falls into the loose groups we notice here (based on treatment efficacy etc) because it is one symptom of many things, and we do not yet know all those many things.
I have had fm for 18 years and cou ting. this is probably the 18th "now we solved it!" I have seen. I will hope the research leads to better understanding of causation and then we can maybe see so efolks cured.
I forgot to mention a thank you for siting your research paper/reference. It is very helpful in me doing more of my own research in this area.
Leo,
What is CVID?
If the studies have shown that it's the never fibers around the blood vessels then the above mentioned sensation I feel upon resting makes complete sense to me.
I remember viewing a video journal coming out of Stanford U. by their top pain docs there and they said in the next 10 yrs we would see an explosion of studies on pain. His predictions were accurate.