My SO kissed the women back after she kissed him. They were both of age. Only three weeks later when he decided to live with me did she press charges and admit to drinking and taking an anti psychotic.. Still guilty. The treatment in Colorado does go over the individual offence and you are in group with people that have done Sexual offences.... Its just part of it. My SO is getting through it by quoting just exactly the court text and we are getting something out of it by talking about the assignments and working on his self esteem. Just trying to make a terrible situation better. My so was evaluated and the counselor stated that treatment could push him to offend... SO it makes no difference if the PO says he goes......

I thought everyone in the country had to take treatment. I contacted a couple lawyers yesterday and speaking to one today that says the judge order is very clear and that my son is Not to take treatment only mental health. Another lawyer said if that's what the federal judge ordered and the PO refuses to go along with it then he can be held in contempt.

So I'm getting all kinds of responses on this.

I already told my son's shrink that he accidentally downloaded 1 cp he was charged with. My son is going, but he says he will tell the truth. We'll see what happens.

A lawyer up here was shocked the government prosecuted him on that 1. He said if it happened here in Philly he wouldn't have been charged.

The PO also says my son is not the 'usual' he sees in his office. He kept looking at him like, 'why is this kid here', but then he goes back to the standard and 'knows' he did something. Especially since the last lawyer pissed him off now the PO is leaning more to my son reoffending. I know the POs are just covering their ass and give the SOs the most extreme caution they can deal out. It has nothing to do with rehabilitation.

The P.O. is covering his ass, it sounds like he knows your son is not of the mind set of a offender but can not take the chance. It will be interesting to see if your lawyer can get him out of therapy, I don't know how those things work but have heard of many cases where they overextend their authority. Interesting situation and I am glad you are in a situation where you can afford to fight it.

I have heard from the treatment guys, the poly guys, the POs, lawyers, and the judge that my son does not belong in the situation he is in. All registered citizens no matter the circumstance are treated unfairly - that is the bottom line. I am not sure what mental treatment is that you are talking about but I think you may have a skewed idea of what sex offender treatment is like. I am not sure about PA but in FL is is just group - they talk about issues and how to handle life situations. They do talk about the crimes and telling the truth is encouraged (of course) - in my son's case he tells the truth but also related that he was acting as a normal healthy teenage male and his group leader agrees with him. Porn addiction is a problem in our country escalated by the internet. There are very few males (some females) that have not looked at and been curious about pornography - in fact most psychologists will tell you that most men that say they never look at porn are covering it up because of guilt. I also think it is very unusual that the FEDS prosecuted a case of 1 CP and to send him to prison. They turned down my sons case and he admitted to looking on purpose. Strange ...

All of these cases are unfair because of the punishments they receive

Nakohichi's son was arrested by I.C.E. so it was federal from the beginning. If I remember right the I.C.E. supervisor was arrested and convicted for possession of CP too but that little fact didn't seem to affect anybody else's prosecution.

SO therapy can be a concern because for many the court order says you have to successfully complete treatment and in order to do that you have to admit guilt. If you don't, you don't successfully complete the program or get kicked out of it and end up with a VOP. Some programs/therapists are better than others. There are many that admitting guilt goes way beyond just "yeah I did it" to having to describe deviant thoughts and fantasies. This can a huge problem for those that didn't have anything like that. The choice is stick to the truth and risk a VOP or make something up and risk failing a polygraph which can lead to a VOP.

It's not that I can afford it. I'm 57.. I have no health care and nothing to fall back on if something happens to me. But my shop is busy so I manage to squeak out attorney fees. The guy I spoke to this morning wants $1500 to 2500 to file in the court. Yeah.. he couldn't get over the fact they prosecuted.. I had to tell him how it is in Floriduh.

I worry about pissing off the PO more, but if my son doesn't have to take it and the judge here agrees that the FL judge said what he said, which I don't see why he wouldn't.. it's right there, then the PO has to accept the fact. If he gets mad that's something we'll deal with later.
Putting my son thru SO Treatment seems like something that will have no end to it, because he'll never pass their test.

Nako,
I hope this all works out for you and, especially, your son. I pissed off my PO by taking notes during our meetings. He asked me what I was writing and I told him it was what he was telling me. He then asked me if I thought I couldn't remember. I pissed him off by telling him that I was just making sure he remembered.
Anyway, find out if Phil Jones is still the Supervisor. He was my first PO and a really decent person. I still didn't trust him.