Rman. I have learned that you can never truely know what the other person in a relationship is thinking or what they are going to do. Sad but true.

Yeap, that what I said! WTF?

Ummm, all my life right now is WTF, but that's beyond the point.

So true Faren

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Why not leave

RMAN you can take my advice or not. Dont know much about what is going on because you are always joking around. If you did not file then you need to the more you are together the more the pain will bulid up. I know you love your kids but need to put the house up for sale so you can get money from that for an apartment.

I know you are working your ass of for your girls but you are also doing it for a woman who dont want you around. You are going to drive yourself crazy the longer you put it off.

Did she lie?
Or did her feelings just change over time?

Rman, I'm so sorry.
I know this pain. I've been in and out of the angry stage.
Right now I'm not angry b/c my youngest daughter called the new guy a dork and that has just made me laugh.
Dude, you need to get out of there.
There are ways. It's not good for ANYBODY!

I remember that feeling. Like my whole marriage was a lie and a big fat joke on me. I was angry and ashamed. I wanted to burn my wedding dress in the front yard and put up a sign that said honk if you F'd my husband.

I still have the dress. I don't feel like destroying it, but I certainly don't want my daughter to wear it. It is in my closet in my new house. Not tainted by the EX or memories of him.

im rambling...sorry

Rman, I concur!

Just that my version today was using 'asshole' instead of 'bitch' - the rest though, almost word by word!

And my ears couldn't believe my mouth, but yeah, I was that angry.

DO SOMETHING

Fuck her and everyone who looks like her.

Dox, the bastard fucking lied to me twice too. Let's fucking kill them all.

As hard as it is....Break Free!!! We all know this pain. Our stbx or exs are self-centered. I would have loved my stbx forever!!! But as hard as it has been in these last 8 months, I wouldn't trade the peace of mind I now have for anything!!! Stay strong.

Sorry Rman. I've raged at the lies my stbx has told me. Good luck.