My nice guy turned out to not be so nice :(
(((MJJ))) we're damned if we do, damned if we don't.

(((((mavs))))) I know...it sucks!! I'm just gonna enjoy my singleness for awhile I think....lol...that lowers the risk of getting hurt ;)

DAB...actually if I knew what was up, I wouldn't post on this kind of site...I'm as confused as a newbie...

NIce guys, bad guys.. It doesn't matter as long as they have a brain and can keep a conversation going.

I think everyone knows how I feel about the 'nice guy' thing...
but..
I'm going to say it again anyway...
cause I'm not so nice any more ;)
I don't believe in the term nice guy b/c a decent man is assertive, and will tell a wife/spouse/ possibly husband how she/possibly he is making him feel and when the boundary is crossed, will act on it.
Most 'nice guys' get used, and most get bitter over time. Many of them vent past cruel acts perpetrated on them onto others.
I'm a recovering 'nice guy' trying to be a decent man.
well, there, I said it
*ducks and covers*

Rman, you're not confused.

You're scared.

Big difference.

When I divorced my ex-wife, I was scared.

When she was fucking someone else, I was confused.

Big difference.

*Hi ex-Mrs. DAB70! I know for a fact you still read this shit!*
*I'm glad my life is not as boring as yours!*
*"hahahahhahahahahahahaha"*

*throws a rotten tomato at Dave* Only cause you ducked and covered...lol

what you may see as a nice guy, others will see as a pushover. What you see as a decent guy others see as a nice guy. I mean, who is to say that a nice guy isn't assertive?

it is all relative based on what you define as a nice guy. Doesnt really mean the same for all.

That's right, CTB.....

You coming up to Philly?

I get what you say.. and I think that is what irritates me so much about it.. that most people think a nice guy is what I'd consider a pushover, that is why I prefer the term 'decent guy'
not as much confusion in the term, at least for me.

Trust me, there is a difference between nice guy and not in my book. I am both and you don't want to see the not nice guy...black and fucking white...I never talk about the grey areas...they don't exist...neither do the gray ones...

if I get my flight Friday night, you bet!!!

I dont know Dave. When some one tells me, "Yeh, they are decent." I see it as they aint so bad, but not all that good. again, my interpretation cus I guess, that is what I would call someone that I feel has those traits. I'll use the term "good guy" most times.

Either way, based on what the majority of the women here said so far, they would and have preferred a bad boy, bad guy or asshole and taken up with them, but now they have been burned, they would rather just have a nice/good/decent guy. So to me, does it really even matter the label we put on those guys who are now on the list cus the bad ones burned their bridges?

rman - what are you scared of? Don't you deserve better then what she is giving you? Do you think her behaviors are going to change? I'm not saying your marriage is over by any means, just hate watching good guys get walked all over.

*also waves at ex - Mrs. DAB just cuz*

who said I was scared? I'm a big boy...not scared at all...