um, that might be the problem... kink is still in you, just handing it out to the right people now.

So right Von....... he hasn't had any (from me) in 4 years....... that's it, he must be horny.

lead him on, get him hard, then walk out... its a fun get back!

LOL. I may do that...... but I'll have to cool off enough to pretend to forgive him first.....

they dont care if you have forgiven them... they just want to get played with!

My pdoc told me that my depression was all in my mind. & people that are depressed are just lazy. I responded: if she (pdoc) were to stump her big toe & it hurts, will according to her the pain is just in her head. So much for her dam nerves ( our nerves are liken to transmitter ). Your friend got his PhD where,right, so his option really doesn't matter.
My freinds & I agree to disagree & remain friends.

a lot of people including most of my friends and family don't have a clue about bipolar disorder-so i don't talk to them much about it-i stick to dbsa and nami metings and bipolar websites-good luck!

LMAO. My dad will tell me "they ain't nothin' wrong with you" or "you ain't crazy. It's all up here" as he points to the side of his head!! What a damn trip!!

My dad (who is usually very kind) will say stuff like --"you are so gabby-maybe you should take another pill". My sister who has her own mental health issues also says some really scathing things like t "the black box warnings about suicide are for people like me--what did you od on, was it Lyrica and how many did you take?. My mother sAYS THAT SHE Had TO HIDe HER NEURONTIN. All of these comments were made in public where others were present. I already spoke to my mother and told her I would not attend further family outings if I was going to be spoken to that way. Hell, i am depressed enough without all this hurtful stuff. I can 't wait to get a job and to get out of this place. (The hellhole of my childhood.

Yes, I run into this all the time. I think that because we may have periods of lucidity and because others might remember how we were before we got sick, they tend to dismiss it. Maybe reminding them of times when you were in a cycle would help.

Von, I understand your approach, but why not just let him know that you have several new STDs. One of them is so new the doctors don't even know how to treat it yet. . . . . and tell him that if he doesn't mind puss you're rarin' to go. Maybe he can get a pusstache? eewwwww LOL

Well if we want to get technical it is a brain disorder so yeah it is all in your head :-)

You're right! fucking prick! That's why I don't tell many people. It's an instant trigger to poke at and question bipolar people! Tell your friend they can't possibly pass an opinion on your bipolar because they're not trained or qualified to. You could also ask him if he's deliberately winding you up! x

I like the term prick, it really comes to mind when I'm angry about people - specifcally on this issue. I have made formal separation from my immediate and extended family in December, and the woman who was my best friend, on and off for 30 years. I rejected some because of their UNADDRESSED addiction and mental illness and some of them rejected me because I have mental illness, even though I am fully embraced in psychiatry (100% compliant) and psychology. But ironically some reject me because I am an 11 years sober alcoholic in AA and there are MANY drunks in my family - not sober. So I'm stuffed either way. Catch 22. I'm rejected both for my weaknesses and my strengths.

Howver I've had a "lightbulb" moment this week. Over the last 12-18 months I have been on forums like this and I have read the vast majority of Bipolar sufferers posting that family and friends treat them, like me, with stigma, rejection, isolation, judgement, bigotry etc. In my case because I have life threatening mental illness (and I did nearly die 2 years ago). The pattern just repeats and repeats and repeats.

So what is this telling me? It's telling me that these reactions and the terrible treatment of psych patients is the NORM. It is much more likely that family and friends will respond this way, rather than the very few times I have seen posts where family and friends were seen to give unconditional love, tolerance, the generosity to learn about the illnesses, humility rather than arrogance etc.

So I've learnt from this that it it NOT personal when family and friends offer up these varied forms of rejection, although it most deinitely FEELS like personal rejection to me - especially now that I am profoundly isolated - at no fault of my own. These responses are so common that it is leading me to believe that my family and friends, even in their ignorance and arrogance ARE NO BETTER OR WORSE than most other family and friends who respond like this across the globe. I am hoping I can make a leap from there to gaining long-term acceptance and forgiveness. "They know not what they do". A fairly clever bloke said that.

I saw my psychologist this morning and told her everything above and she just had this huge smile and said YES that's it. It doesn't mean I'm magically healed about the terrible things that have happened to me in these regards, but it a great big step in the right direction.

I get told all the time that i'm not crazy. but I think they just tell me that to keep from making me feel bad about myself. because they know I have issues.

Stands proud and states proud. . . "I am Raven and I have at least 2 toes dipped into the pool of insanity"