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Do you consider yourself a high bottom drunk or low bottom drunk?
10 yrs ago, I hit my low point. I was snorting coke and crystal meth nonstop, popping pills left and right, falling asleep with a bottle of vodka in my hand at 6am after eating ephedra all night to stay awake, puking and pissing in my sleep, so depressed I couldn't speak.
I somehow managed to pull myself out after I lost my job. I quit all the drugs so I could pass a drug test and reigned my drinking back to a bottle of wine a night. That lasted another 9 years. This last year shit hit the fan. I found myself in a downward spiral, falling fast. I started abusing klonopin and consider my most recent "bottom" to be a 5 day binge where 3 of the days were blackout and I ate a bottle of pills because I didn't feel I could get trashed enough - thank God it wasn't a lethal dose. If the bottle had been full or had there been more pills in the house, I'd be dead.
I consider myself a high bottom drunk because I have maintained high functionality during all the years I drank. I have fought to stop drinking not out of total desperation, although I was pretty sick of myself, but because I feared for my life if I didn't stop. I believed I'd be covered in dirt before I hit what others refer to as rock bottom.
I believe you CAN make a decision to get sober before that proverbial "rock bottom". Everyone is different. Willingness is key.
Thoughts on hitting bottom?
10 yrs ago, I hit my low point. I was snorting coke and crystal meth nonstop, popping pills left and right, falling asleep with a bottle of vodka in my hand at 6am after eating ephedra all night to stay awake, puking and pissing in my sleep, so depressed I couldn't speak.
I somehow managed to pull myself out after I lost my job. I quit all the drugs so I could pass a drug test and reigned my drinking back to a bottle of wine a night. That lasted another 9 years. This last year shit hit the fan. I found myself in a downward spiral, falling fast. I started abusing klonopin and consider my most recent "bottom" to be a 5 day binge where 3 of the days were blackout and I ate a bottle of pills because I didn't feel I could get trashed enough - thank God it wasn't a lethal dose. If the bottle had been full or had there been more pills in the house, I'd be dead.
I consider myself a high bottom drunk because I have maintained high functionality during all the years I drank. I have fought to stop drinking not out of total desperation, although I was pretty sick of myself, but because I feared for my life if I didn't stop. I believed I'd be covered in dirt before I hit what others refer to as rock bottom.
I believe you CAN make a decision to get sober before that proverbial "rock bottom". Everyone is different. Willingness is key.
Thoughts on hitting bottom?
Over time, consistent drinking will cause many problems and potentially kill you.....it just takes longer. I was a consistent, functioning, daily drunk for 15 years, and that doesn't count the binges of my youth. Imagine my surprise when my body started to malfunction on me! It's not fair! I wasn't given enough warning! The warning signs were actually there for years, but I ignored them.
I do think that you need to reach a breaking point. That doesn't mean that you need to be in the gutter puking on yourself.....just a breaking point so that you're willing to put sobriety above everything else.
Anna, you aren't spilling over into anything. You are a wonderful friend of me and always have been. You've supported me through thick and thin, as has Danny. I don't know what the hell is going on with these statements though that seem to indicate that I have a problem with you, because I DON'T and never have!
Holycrap, you open your mouth a lot around here without knowing the facts...."You attacked Phil (which I agreed with by the way) over your girlfriends hurt feelings with him..." ...Who the hell said I had hurt feelings??? I don't need someone to tell me 'congrats for your year sober'! I just thought he was an Ass Hole too for what he said to Danny about the whole situation. I Didn't start that! Get your facts straight!!!
"...and now you attach Anna which I'm guessing is your girlfriend that you are referring to as the person who stood by Anna." ...You're guessing? You don't know shit about the situation, so you might just want to back the fuck off, because you're really making ME look like an Ass here!
More Holycrap's crap..."I would suggest some co-dependency for you my dear. Karen's a big girl and can fight her own battles. I've seen her do it." ...I don't have any 'battles' to fight! I don't have a beef with Anna, nor do I with Phil or anyone here for that matter! Danny is not co-dependent ! He simply gets carried away when he is trying to protect me from the world. He has a big heart like that...though I don't need it, he still is there for me.
"If you've been lurking for sometime and then come back here under a new name, it's deceptive, sneaky & low in my opinion to those who were your "friends"." ...NO, more assumption! Danny has NOT been lurking around here. He rejoined just yesterday and it was because of ME. He didn't want to be here at all. Can see why much of the time.
"Especially if you're gonna come back & attack people, this very sight as well as AA. What in God's name happened to you? Shouldn't "love" make you all googly and happy rather than militant, nasty & hateful?" ...You attack the hell out of ppl! so what are you talking about? It seems to me that you put yourself up on an AA pedistole, and that's sad, because it seems you've already 'forgotten' like some of the AA gurus have (Phil608). What in God's name is happening to YOU?
Sorry but this has been on my heart, Shelly, for a long time. You've changed. I may have too, but I don't think in the same ways. You shouldn't be going and attacking ppl, and Danny. Danny has thought you were just the cats meow for a long time, and I agreed, but there are changes going on in you that aren't, in my opinion, not the greatest. In some areas, yes, and others...they just stink.
Plus the hugs between you and him and another member were public & open for all to view not too long ago and are easily read from anyone's home page without even attempting to be nosy.
I lost a lot of respect then & that's been on my heart for a while too, so although it's sad that it had to happen this way, guess it was necessary.
HE stated that he had been watching for a while, that's where the "lurking" comment came from and yes, I felt his comments were way out of line so I spoke my opinion as I've always done. There is nothing new there.
If it wasn't your boyfriend who was being an ass, you likely would have said something yourself and you know it. He was nasty for no reason to Anna & you would have defended her too if it had been anyone else.
Y'all are yelling so loudly I can't even hear what you're trying to say.
DON'T light it. DON'T fuel it. Let it be.
Nothing left here but emotions running rampant.
Believe it or not, we don't even have to fight.
But that's okay -- right now I don't understand much at ALL about what is going on here. And I am happy for that.
Oh, for what it's worth, I hit bottom when I realized I was digging a path to hell. Since then, things have been looking up for me.
I know, I know BORING!
Tiger Woods apparently said he hit rock bottom. I'd take that rock bottom: Billions, the ability to earn millions and slept with all those women , yet still married to a super model. He needs to meet a couple "under the bridge types" eh?
Dontread: I don't think he's married to that supermodel any more, but I"m sure he can find a replacement model (I know, insensitive-, but I can only get so worked up about the Tiger thing)
HC: Typical Georgia comment.....aren't you people wearing shoes down there yet?
Can we laugh now?
Can't wait to see the ratings this weekend.