Widows & Widowers Support Group
This community is dedicated to those who have lost a husband, wife, or partner. Anything is open for discussion here, with the hope that we can focus on grief, bereavement, life after loss, and continuing on after a great loss.
I know for me I haven't been angry with God, because my Roby had cancer I blame the devil for the cancer, it's such an evil thing. The only thing that gets me through this is my faith that God has a plan (but he'd better spell out to me) and that I know I will see Roby again.
I think anger is one of the steps we have to go through in the grief journey.
I hope you find your peace soon and just keep praying..
Diane
When my father was dying, I prayed to take his pain away. Then I was to go to my Dad and let him know I would be fine. And to go ahead and join his family. Within 5 minutes he was gone. Thank you God for easing his pain.
Blind Faith, without questioning, is what Faith is about. There has been so many times he has answered my prayer, and not, in the way I wanted . What it gets too much for you. Just say God, I can't do this anymore, I hand it over to You, to do what you will. When my husband had cancer, I did that, and I could feel the burden lifting from me. He was saved, and no further cancer for the rest of his life, 16 years.
This last illness. I prayed he would make it to have surgery, he did, but with many complications. The last time he was in the hospital. I prayed, to not let him suffer anymore. He was to be attached to breathing machines, iv fed, to die slowly. All of a sudden, he went into sudden cardiac arrest, and died instantly. Without suffering anymore.
Now, I never had prayed for me, except to help me get through this ordeal. And give me peace. And guide me through.
I find, if I am in complete silence, and pray from the heart, not really with words, but with my mind. and continue to sit, eyes closed, until peace washes over you.
He was in a Win/Win situation. If he died, he would be where he was striving to go anyway, if he lived, he would be around his family again, but pain. So, in short, he went to where he was going, whether it be now, or later.
I was talking to a dear friend about these feelings and with her guidence and my prayers I made the decision to let God rule my life from that point forward. With that decision, I no longer expected God to do what I wanted, but I would be the clay and Him the potter. I began reading the new testament with a notepad and a concordence and got to know this man called Jesus.
The more I got to know Him the more I knew I could trust Him with my life. That trust is what my faith is about in good times and in bad.
Just my story. Sharon
God Bless you and bring peace to your heart.
I also have no desire to offend anyone. Gerald
And Cliff died at 55, leaving me with a mountain of problems, a broken heart, seemingly no future, and two disabled kids to finish raising without him.
I was mad at God for a long time. Then I finally stopped trying to bargain with God. I think that's where many people wind up creating more problems for themselves is with trying to bargain with God. Basically, "God if I pray to You, You give me this, " or "I will do Your work if You will fix my loved one, " etc. I think that is flawed thinking.
Faith is about trust and love, not about "stuff" and "wishes." You should do the right thing because you want to, not because you expect to be rewarded for it, and also it is sort of like doing what pleases your mother or father. You don't always do it just out of blind obedience, or because you think you will get some thing out of it, you do it in part because it makes you happy to make them happy. You do it out of love and a commitment.
The Commandments begin with God basically stating that we shall have no other God, which means there is no equal to Him. When we try to bargain with God, it's like trying to be His equal. It is a normal reaction to grieving to want to bargain with God, but it gets you nowhere. God is not going to give you tit-for-tat.
I called for a truce with God. He knows I am mad at Him for taking Cliff, that I think it was wrong and unfair, but it will no longer stop me from living my life nor from doing my best to live my life according to God's teachings. I stopped blaming God. I also stopped expecting God to handle everything for me.
The wisest things about faith I have ever heard and which have stuck with me are:
(1) An old Arab saying - "Trust in God! But tie your camel." In other words, believe in God but don't expect God to do it all for you. Take your own personal responsibility in your life. If you get a miracle of Divine Intervention, it's wonderful, but don't expect God to fix everything for you.
(2) "Sometimes the answer to your prayers is 'NO.'" A dear friend, the daughter of a chaplain and granddaughter of a minister shared that with me many years ago. We used to study scripture together, and shared our insights with each other. Anyway, that comment helps me stay focused.
(3) The Serenity Prayer - learned when Cliff got into alcohol rehab in '87 - he was sober 20 years at his death in 2007. This prayer resonates more with me now that I have been widowed, because it describes what we need to deal with the loss and keep going:
"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference."
It has been my observation over these 5 years and 8 months that faith can be a great help and comfort when you are widowed/widowered, but that it will not all on its own "fix it" or "cure it." I have watched very passionate and ardent believers put all their reliance on their faith or faith communities, and they almost 100% fail. Some pretty spectacularly, too. There is no one single thing that all on its own will solve all your problems, including faith. I wish there was. I'd buy a warehouse full and give it too all of my friends who are suffering. It doesn't work that way though.
I agree with Mel - the questions you ask will make your faith stronger. That sounds like a contradiction, until you realize that when you review it, you will prove things to yourself, in your own way. I remember Cliff showing me a passage about "Make your doubts sacred" - because they bring you closer to God.
I lost my faith when Cliff died, for a time. I credit my two co-CLs here for helping me find it again. They will be shocked to hear me say that! LOL! My faith, like everything else in my life, doesn't look like it used to, but it works for me.
I hope this helps you, Diane, and I hope I haven't offended anybody either.
Love and Hugs,
Martha
Becoming a widow brought me closer, and I am feeling sorry for those who have drifted away from their belief out of anger.
I turn to my Faith not only for comfort and hope, but in hope to get the guidance to navigate life which is full of dangerous turns, as well as temptations.
I start my day with a prayer , and close my eyes at night with the words of gratitude.
How did I get there? When I realized that I am blind without it, and God was my only hope to live life worth living.
I love that quote because it explains much of the journey.
We are all beggars......seeking for something to fill the gnawing hole inside. When Bill died, that hole inside me was enormous and dark and hopeless.
After struggling with huge doubts, anger, fear etc............I came limping my way back to Jesus. And I found peace. And hope.
In the end, it's all grace.
Also, am not saying that you won't still feel pain and or anger, that is part of this life He has given us. Now, the why of that, I don't know, and probably won't know. I just trust that God has everything in His hands and knows what He is doing.
Jesus is the One who died for us, so that we are able to turn to Him and then, know that we will be with Him one day for Eternity. Remember, He suffered while here on Earth, more than we will, and did it just for US!!
Part of living this life is knowing that one day we will die to this Earthly body, but, gain an Eternal one.
Lord, help Nicker as she wades through her feelings and, please lift her spirits up. Amen
Hugs, Joely