Rheumatoid Arthritis Support Group
Rheumatoid arthritis is a chronic, inflammatory, multisystem, autoimmune disorder. It is a disabling and painful condition which can lead to substantial loss of mobility due to pain and joint destruction. The disease is also systemic in that it often also affects many extra-articular tissues throughout the body including the skin, blood vessels, heart, lungs, and...
Are you wondering about the liver?
Did your wife get a biopsy? I am diagnosed with fatty liver. Mine could have been before RA or it could have been caused by methotrexate. But my liver numbers are normal. It was the biopsy that found the extra fat in the cells.
The liver can get it's own autoimmune disease separate from others - and the biopsy tells the tale on it too.
I've not heard much of other organs involved. Mostly lungs.
I'm curious about the sulfasalazine for your wife after she quits breastfeeding. My liver doctor said no to it because it could raise enzymes. My enzymes are typically 20 AST and 25 ALT, but the Enbrel put them up in the 200s and the combo Enbrel/methotrexate put them into the 500s.
I'm all for any help we can get for the RA!
BCatz, she is getting an ultrasound soon and they are giving her a month with vitamins and a weight loss trial to see if Enzymes decrease(slightly elevated). If enzymes remain the same, she will be getting a liver biopsy. I will ask more about the sulfasalazine. The doctor mentioned it doesn't affect the liver. So I will ask once again.
My wife is stuck in a hard place. Her RA doctor wants to treat agrressively but her enzymes are up and biologics are out of the question because she has latent TB. Treatment for latent TB is currently not recommended because of the liver enzymes.
Here is the site I use for liver toxicity. Most drugs have some liver interaction so don't be alarmed...but as you look through, you will find better dmard choices overall to try.
As insulting as Methotrexate is to the liver, my enzymes rose from the low 20s to the low 30s on a rather high dose and stayed there for 6 months. It was the addition of Enbrel that hijacked them. So if I get "desperate" I could retry methotrexate at a very low dose and see where it takes me.
http://livertox.nih.gov
if the link doesn't work, just find livertox.nih.gov
It seems like everyone moves on to biologics. Me and my wife thought Plaquenil would be it. It turns out the doctor went the safe route because of the liver enzymes and my wife is still breastfeeding.
i am happiest when I do not have to take the antibiotics and I am happy to say I am back to the below 20's also bcatz
its funny how our bodies are all different.
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The CT scan, followed by a PET Scan showed up a small lesion on my right lung which was needle biopsied and turned out to be cancerous.
The good news was that it was found at a very early stage, by sheer chance. So, I had the whole top lobe of the right lung taken. The right lung has 3 lobes, I learnt, whilst the left lung has only two lobes. The operation was on Sept 26 (actually, my husband's birthday).
The great news was that the cancer was contained inside that lobe and there was no lymph gland involvement so no other treatment, as in chemo or radiation, had to be done.
.Just proves again that you never know what is around the corner. I feel blessed that my Rheumy is so thorough because I had no symptoms at all. I could have done without this nasty surprise but still can't believe how lucky I was and that's what I'm focusing on.
You know when you take these heavy duty drugs with dire warnings what can happen but hope it won't be you.
My Rheumatologist does blood tests every four weeks re Methotrexate affecting liver.
I had been on Orencia for 12 months previous to Actemra at the time of diagnosis. (Interesting to read your post re Orencia, Jen)
Eight weeks after the surgery, I had 2 Rituxin infusions which, virtually wiped out my immune system.and this resulted in Shingles and Cellulitis. I have been off all meds since beginning of May and about to go back onto Methotrexate this weekend.
It is fairly rare that organs are attacked but it does happen...
I actually had this as my first symptom. It took years to put together that not being able to think, plan and remember were actually part of the disease.
I was in school when it first happened, taking a French vocabulary course. I tried for weeks to remember the words and definitions, and I could not remember any of the 500 words. Then I had an asthma attack and had to go on 40 mg of prednisone. I had 2 days left till the exam, and I was able to memorize all 500 words and pull off an A! I would have flunked before the prednisone.
After I had RA, when I had a med failure, I always noticed this inability to put 2 and 2 together. But prednisone or a good working biologic brought back my brain to working order.
I'm not sure how much long term damage my brain gets. I did very well in my Master's degree program, when I was on good meds. I'd like to do a Ph.D, but I can't find a good drug so that dream is going to have to wait, or be never.