He,he... Fact, a rat is so much smaller then us, plus a rat can not throw up, something in it's sytem that prevents it from doing that, so it will keep on ingesting it until death,they have not developped an INR for rats yet, their lost... LOL

We are monitored, so not to worry about that.
I have talked to some folks that refused to threat their DVT/PE with Warfarin, just because of that reason," I'm not taking any rat poison..."
The alternative is more expensive or fatal.
Yes the thought has crossed my mind, but soon your forget.

It doesn't bother me at all and I never really gave it much thought. To me, it's medication, like any other medication.

Like everything in life, I guess it's how you look at things. I'm not thrilled every day to be taking it for the rest of my life, but I'm thankful that I have access to such inexpensive, effective medication.

I think (or hope) it is rat poison because if a rat ingests too much of it they can bleed to death. Not poison in the actual toxix sense.

I know... this sucks.

In a few years there will be new drugs to replace Coumadin for us lifers. The only drawback is that they are not reversible???

Sometimes, I ask myself if this is for real - how I am on this crazy drug called Warfarin. Yes, I am glad to have it to prevent me from clotting. Yet, why can't warfarin be more similar to the seemingly benign thyroid pill my husband takes daily.
Pam

I agree, the whole thing about the poison effect is that a rat will knaw away at it until their clotting is non existant and thus bleed to death. WE watch our levels so that does not happen and we do not knaw away at it all day as well.

But I must say that I would eat horse droppings if they helped me to remain functional and living.

Amen!

But, "horse droppings"???


LOL

I've thought about it during the last six months, but I'm really not that concerned. It's a medicine that's been around for a long time relative to FDA standards and I'm so glad they have it for all of us who need it for short or long term use. I don't always like the side effects, but they are minimal compared to some other types of drugs I have taken- can't stand the side effects of many of drugs that make us very nauseous like the iron I have to take until I go thru menopause for my anemia. I also attempted anti-depressants after my divorce and thought my heart was going to pound out of my body and that I was on a jug of caffeine....so I quit. You should check out my daughter after she takes prednisone for her asthma flares.... not a fun person to be around. I guess you get my point... I have read all the small print when you pick up the meds from the pharmacist or the PDR and realize that most medications have some sort of side effect. The most important part is that we stay alert to any signs or symptoms of internal bleeding, etc.... but I am soooo
thankful for this "rat poison"! :) Lori

LOL I love the comments and have gotten such a chuckle out of some of the answers especially the Horse droppings. Like all of you I would take what ever meds I had to to help my condition but did want to know if any of you ever thought about the Rat Poison issue. Since right now I am on medical leave from work I have time to think about all these crazy what If's.
And speaking of horses do any of you ride and if you do can any of you recommend a good riding helmet that I can use riding my horse and one that will double as a helmet to wear while out hiking in the back country.
I have a separate snowmobile and ATV helmet but way to hot and cumbersome when riding a horse or hiking.

Hi

My brother in law calls me Mrs Ratty cos I take the rat poison!

Have thought of it like that I must admit but then got to thinking it is stopping me from having another PE. Even the thought of that happening is worse than the thought of rat poison!

Also it has been used on us human rats for decades so I think that it cant be that bad after all

Love to all us rats out there LOL

Kate x

When I was in hospital I met a young man visiting his mother with a PE. He told his mother not to take rat poison 'cause he wouldn't be caught dead taking that rat poison stuff. Then he had to go outside for his next cigarette. Go figure.

There are a lot of substances that are toxic in large doses or that kill other animals. Tylenol and cats is a really really bad idea. Large amounts of alcohol will kill a human. Beer is a terrific slug bait and killer. Some of the chemo drugs in the world are so poisonous humans shouldn't be near them at all and workplaces are in lockdown to prevent it from getting out. Digitalis is a lifesaving heart medication but also a very very deadly poison to humans.

The warfarin is a rat poison because they bleed to death. It is well over a 1 in a million chance that we will bleed to death given the proper dose. I wouldn't recommend a "rat poison" sized human dose or you will meet the same fate as the rat.

Chocolate is awesome but would kill a cat or a dog. Go figure.

Hi, Yeeees - it is rat poison. My doc told me that when I was first admitted to the hospital. (didn't much care for that doc)I had bad side effects aand got switched to an injectable called Arixtra. Still bad side effects, but not as bad as coumadin and you can eat what you want. I have heard there is a new blood thinner coming on the market soon that is drivd from seaweed and is natural and non-toxic. Hoping they hurry up with this. hugs, clairejean

ha, i like your comment about the smoker and his mum.... eek!!

Yeah, its quite funny, my step dad used to tease me too calling me ratty-rat-face and the like. But yes, its only used as a poison because it causes the rats to haemorrhage bleed to death. not becuase its like toxic.

And its basically only an ingredient that is common to both things. Haven't we all heard that toilet cleaner and cola have a shockingly similar ingredient list???? ever left a penny in a glass of coke over night...? There are loads of foods that have common ingredients in lots of nasty things.

Don't get hung up on it though - the drugs work, and yeah, its quite funny when you think of it, eating rat poison!!

Raty rat face, nooooooooooooooo!!!!! :)