Pulmonary Embolism Support Group
By far the most common form of pulmonary embolism is a thromboembolism, which occurs when a blood clot, generally a venous thrombus, becomes dislodged from its site of formation and embolizes to the arterial blood supply of one of the lungs. Symptoms may include difficulty breathing, pain during breathing, and more rarely circulatory instability and death.
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I was diagnosed with PE on 7/14/14 after experiencing chest pain. I realize I'm very lucky to have experienced such quick and proper treatment. I was immediately admitted and was on Heparin for 3 days until my release when I began Xarelto.
I'm terrified. I feel like my body failed me and I don't know how to trust it again. I feel as if I'm a walking time bomb ready to collapse at any second. The idea of being on a blood thinner terrifies me but so does the idea of another PE. Plus, I keep reading statistics about the long-term survival for PE survivors - someone posted a link here that said something like 33% of PE survivors will die of a recurrence.
I just have so many feelings I can't sort it all out. I'm thankful to be alive but I keep imagining my husband and our 3 year old son having to live without me and I break down.
So far all my blood tests have been normal - meaning no obvious cause of my PE. That scares me as well because I know some cancers can cause these blood clots. The ultrasounds of my legs did not show any DVTs but the tech said she rarely finds them once they've broken off and gone to the lungs. I just don't know what to think anymore.
I'm terrified. I feel like my body failed me and I don't know how to trust it again. I feel as if I'm a walking time bomb ready to collapse at any second. The idea of being on a blood thinner terrifies me but so does the idea of another PE. Plus, I keep reading statistics about the long-term survival for PE survivors - someone posted a link here that said something like 33% of PE survivors will die of a recurrence.
I just have so many feelings I can't sort it all out. I'm thankful to be alive but I keep imagining my husband and our 3 year old son having to live without me and I break down.
So far all my blood tests have been normal - meaning no obvious cause of my PE. That scares me as well because I know some cancers can cause these blood clots. The ultrasounds of my legs did not show any DVTs but the tech said she rarely finds them once they've broken off and gone to the lungs. I just don't know what to think anymore.
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I don't have too much sick time to use at work so I was going to go back on Monday but I'm feeling unsure. How soon did everyone else go back to work?
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The physical symptoms I am experiencing now are extreme fatigue, residual pain in swelling in my leg and foot, occasional nausea and rapid heartbeat and panic attacks. My doc said this is my body healing and anxiety.
She says it is too soon to gauge what effects I will be left with, as I had a vena cava filter implanted and had to undergo an emergency uterine artery embolization and blood transfusion during my hospital stay, as well. I am slowly starting not to worry about the long-term effects. I am paying attention to what's going on with my body and taking my medication, trying to reduce stress, etc. In my mind, I have run through every scenario that ends in my demise. I think it's probably natural to do that right after such a traumatic event, but it is not helpful. I have come to realize that I feel better when I think positive, but I am a work-in-progress on that front. :)
I'm feeling a lot of guilt and anxiety about the stress this has placed on my husband, who was already dealing with way too much, and how my kids (8 y.o. twins) are reacting to and dealing with the information we are sharing with them.
So... you and I will be going through this together to some extent. So glad we both found this community.
DaisyWarrior, I too feel that guilt for putting this stress on my husband! I've been very much MIA for the past year as I've been studying for my CPA exam and that's put extreme stress on us both. Now, with my last test scheduled for August 8 we have this to face. I feel awful for doing all this to him. I absolutely help when I can, if not just to spend time with my little guy, but it's still a huge burden on him.
First, I'm not sure where you found the statistic that you mention in your article, but I'm pretty sure it isn't that high. People post incorrect information here all the time (much like the rest of the internet), so be careful to see if there is actually a link to the statistic and if the provider of the statistic is at all reliable. It's so easy to believe the worst this early in recovery, but the truth is that most people clot once, come off the anticoagulants in six months or so and go on with their lives ... and nothing else ever happens with regard to clots. There's no way that 33% of us kick the bucket in a few years from more clots ...the number is just too high.
Now, some of us do re-clot, and a lot of us multiple clotters hang around these boards. Keep in mind that just because there are a lot of us here, that doesn't represent the norm. Most of us are the medical weirdos and we're considered exceptions, not the norm. Do not get caught up in the thinking that because a lot of us have clotted more than once, you're definitely going to do it too. The people who only clot once aren't hanging around these boards ... they're off living their lives.
As for a cause, not everyone does wind up with a definite cause. Sometimes it is a "perfect storm" of events ... dehydration, a long car/plane ride, birth control/HRT, falling asleep in tight clothes, ankle/foot injury, all sorts of things. And, even you don't have an exact cause, that doesn't mean you have cancer. I don't have a cause either and I don't have cancer.
Also, do know that not all clotting blood tests can be done while you're taking anticoagulants, so you may still have some you need to do, depending on when your blood was drawn for the texts.
Also, just because you didn't have a lot of SOB (shortness of breath) and your oxygen stats were good, that doesn't mean you won't feel some physical aftereffects. That big clot may take a while to fully dissolve and in the meantime, your heart and lungs are going to be compromised and your body may not be getting on the blood/oxygen that it needs. In addition, even if that clot dissolved five minutes after you were diagnosed, it does leave some damage behind it and that takes time to heal.
It's hard to say what physical effects you'll experience, since every clot is different. For me, I had no pain, but severe SOB. I didn't have the really bad fatigue show up for about 4-5 weeks after diagnosis, when I was just pushing myself too hard to get back to "normal." Things will change in how you feel as you recover, and you might feel great for a while and then lousy for a while more.
As for work, I went back to work four days after getting out of the hospital, but I was on a reduced schedule for a while. You might check with your workplace to see if you're eligible for FMLA, which should allow you to take some time for health reasons without putting you at risk for losing your job. However, you don't get paid for taking FMLA time, so that could be an issue if you're the sole breadwinner.
Also, try to shift your thinking toward the blood thinner. Right now, that medicine is preventing more clots from forming and it is letting your body dissolve the existing clot and start to heal from that damage. The longer you're on that med, the further you get from the perfect storm that caused the clot and the less likely to are to clot again. That medicine is keeping you safe and helping you heal and it is a GOOD thing in your world right now.
I'll also say that, for me, the mental part of recovery was SO much harder than the physical part. I've wrestled with anxiety-based insomnia for 15+ years and had it pretty much under control at the time of my PEs ... however, with the PEs, it came roaring back and I had a terrible time sleeping for eons. I couldn't even try to fall asleep in a room by myself, because I was convinced that I wouldn't wake up. I did therapy, meditation, and also two years of anti-anxiety meds to help me sort it all out. If you're already taking meds, you ought to contact whoever prescribes them for you and talk about getting your dose adjusted for a while and/or adding meds for more immediate panic attacks. Anything you can do to help yourself out with the mental part of things is a good idea and I'm so glad to hear that you're already talking with your therapist.
Hang in there! Read around on the site and ask lots of questions. We've all been where you are and it is a freaky place, to be sure. But, you'll make it through, and things will get better and you'll absolutely be there for your husband and child. I'm more than four and a half years out from my PEs (multiple, bilateral) and I'm pretty much back to normal and have been for a while. It'll be rough for a few months, but it DOES get better.
My husband suggested seeing if we could increase my anxiety meds for a while. It probably isn't a bad idea. I'm facing going back to work tomorrow and we'll see how I do. I am eligible for FMLA but, as you noted, it's unpaid and that's a problem. We do have an emergency fund we could dip into but I'd prefer to avoid that if at all possible (still haven't seen the bills yet for my hospital stay). I'd rather see if I could arrange a work from home situation at least part of the week. Thankfully my employer tends to be rather understanding with these types of situations and I've been there 5 years so I have some level of seniority.
I can't tell you how comforting it is to have you all. Actually. I'm sure you understand! There's so little information about how to emotionally cope with this. I never so much as lost consciousness but I still feel like I had a brush with death and being able to chat with others who truly understand is amazing.
I had FMLA and I used for a while, but I didn't just stop working, I was working 10-hour shifts at the time of my PEs and I started back at work doing 4-hour shifts. The rest of the day was covered by FMLA. I slowly increased my work time to five hours, six hours, etc. The few times that I felt really lousy (had just pushed it too hard), I could use the FMLA to go see my doctor or go home and sleep.
I guess what I'm saying, is that you might consider signing up for the FMLA as a backup. If you need to work shorter days for a while, it'll help with that. Or, if you can work full days half of the week, but need afternoons off Thursday and Friday, it's got you covered. Or, if you're working full days, but need occasional time off for doctor's visits, you can use the FMLA too.
I mean, FMLA will cover you for 12 weeks off, unpaid. For me, I used probably less than a fourth of it, spread out over 8 months or so. It was just helpful to have notes on file with HR from my doctor and to have the option of being able to take some downtime if I absolutely needed to.
Also, you might be able to get a note from your doctor that encourages the working from home part time, and that might help you out with your employer, as well. For me, at the time of my clots, I was working as a bank teller and was required to stand all day. My doctor wrote a note asking that I be given a stool until I got better. That, plus the FMLA, gave me some flexibility during recovery that helped put my mind at ease.
Also, I did make a point to be available to my employer during difficult situations. When I first started back working four hours a day, I made a point to be in during the lunch hours so I could help cover as people took breaks. If people were out on vacation or sick, I tried to be available a little more to help with coverage. Doing stuff like that will help your employer feel like you're still an asset, even if you're not able to work 40 hours a week.
I work for one of the biggest healthcare organizations in the country, and I personally was glad to get the job protection the FMLA gave me. I have 11 years in this department, 22 years service total and I feel I could have been a high pay/expensive grandfathered pension and benefits victim of termination otherwise. It's all according to what size company you work for how much you need the FMLA.
And yes, if you can work something out with a flex schedule, that can be really helpful. I went back working from home about 2 weeks after I diagnosis, and then went back in the office full time a few weeks after that.
You're going to be ok.
Btw, I read a similar statistic today that I mentioned before with one VERY important difference. This one said that about 1/3 of PE sufferers that go UNTREATED will die of another PE within years. The untreated part is key. It was highlighting how often these go misdiagnosed or even ignored. I'm guilty of it as I initially thought I had just pulled a muscle.