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aliceunchained87
Hi everybody,
I'm new here and I need help. I don't know where to start so I am going to try to start at the beginning. I apologize in advance if this post appears long and convoluted.
I was raised in a household by a drug addict who had multiple personalities due to trauma in their childhood. As they say, the cycle of abuse often continues.
I was in and out of therapy throughout my teens years and successfully completed enough cognitive behavioral therapy for my abuse that my therapist reached a point they could no longer help me. I had flashbacks until I was roughly 18 and then they stopped. I assumed I knew everything there was left for me to know and managed to put it all behind me.
I started flash-backing again about a year and a half ago (nearly 10 years after my last flashback) and these flashes are different. Rather than abuse at the hands of family, these memories revolve around the year and a half I spent in a child sex trafficking ring (and no, I am not joking). I managed to verify that my memories are real (as I am sure you all know how nerve-wrecking that can be!) and ended up back in therapy with a new symptom last year: Survivor's Guilt.
I managed to escape the ring when I was almost ten and was shipped half way across the country to live with other people in my family. I met with the new therapist a few times this last year and she ultimately ended up telling me I'm well adjusted enough, and have enough positive coping skills for flashbacks, that there's nothing she can do to help me handle PTSD or Survivor's Guilt any better than I currently am (though she said she remained available if I ever needed someone to "listen").
I find the flashbacks difficult to handle because I have an eidetic memory. When my flash-backs hit, they hit me with full force: smell, taste, sensation, touch... and my brain can't distinguish between me being in a flash-back and me being conscious/awake. The extra senses I feel make everything more difficult to handle; when they come in my sleep, I often don't know I'm reliving flash-backs until I wake up present and in my bed.
This set of flash-backs is different in nature than my previous ones; rather than just short clips of me being beaten at the hands of family this includes me being (literally) sold to people for sex and torture. I was in a ring being shipped from house to house (or dungeon to dungeon) for a year and a half. At some point I gave up on ever escaping and saving myself; I hit a desperate low as a child and it haunts me in my sleep. When I have flash-backs in the form of dreams I can't tell they are dreams because even those have senses.
A few weeks ago I had flashbacks every night for six nights in a row; it lasted for so long that I was beginning to wonder which reality was "real." I questioned whether the me now with an amazing husband and loving daughter was just a dream that child-me was generating to help keep her sanity.
... and then today hit. I don't know what it is about today but I had the worst flash-back episode I've ever had. Ever. I didn't sleep well last night and found myself exhausted today; I attempted to get an hour of sleep in the afternoon but found myself so scared at the thought of sleep I had my first panic attack. I found myself jittery and anxious, my heart racing and my ears ringing. Even my worst episodes as a teen didn't include panic attacks, and I couldn't even tell you why I had one (though I suppose if I flash-backed in my sleep last night but don't remember it, that might explain it). I slept for 40 minutes tops.
After we laid my daughter down to bed this evening, my husband crawled into bed with me because he knows I was under the weather today. We lounged and chatted like we always do (this time it was mostly me talking about how "off" and exhausted I felt, and how sorry I was for it) and then he decided he was going to go upstairs and play video games. He turned off the light and shut the door (not uncommon, I tend to sleep best in cold, dark, quiet places) and I was hit by a paralyzing fear the likes of which I've never had to deal with.
I found myself terrified of the dark. The moment the door shut and the blackness enveloped me I found myself sobbing hysterically and shaking so hard I was near vomiting. My husband ended up coming back to the room but not before I started getting hit with flash-backs. I can't even begin to tell you how many I had in a row but it was like a cascade of dominoes falling into place, and I did not handle it well.
He managed to get me sitting upright (thank goodness he is retired military and has gone through PTSD training!) and managed to help ground me, but during the entire episode (15-20 minutes?) I mostly sat sobbing hysterically, gasping for air as huge waves of panic, anxiety, and sadness hit. I found myself unable to speak full sentences and found myself rubbing my fists in my eyes as I pulled at my hair.
Even in my worst as a teen I had never pulled at my hair. I think I had a full psychotic break tonight and it has me deeply concerned. Once my husband managed to get me outside he was able to "jolt" me back into reality (it is VERY cold where I live right now and I was in shorts and a tank top) and I feel okay. I spent an hour or so trying to understand, sort, and compartmentalize what I had recalled, and my husband managed to keep me from falling to pieces (for the most part!).
I do not feel suicidal, just deeply withdrawn. I'm exhausted but wide awake (I can't get the images out of my mind) and am concerned if another episode like this ever happens I might not mentally pull through it. I refuse to let these memories break me now when they couldn't break me then.
I considered trying to schedule a follow-up appointment with my new therapist (who said she's there if I need to talk) but I'm not sure that's going to change anything. I realize the fact I had a full-out episode and managed to recover within the same hour is more than any therapist could ever ask for. I realize my sleep concerns this evening are valid, and I have things I can do to keep myself busy, but I'm scared.
I am scared for my own mental health even if things seem okay. I've never had an attack like this, and panic attacks are new to me as a whole. I understand it was probably prompted by the quantity of flash-backs all at once and by the content that was in them, I just don't know who to reach out to or what to reach out for.
I have friends but I don't feel comfortable burdening them with this. I'm not ready to tell my husband yet what I recalled (and he's kind enough not to ask), I just want to know if any of you have been through this?
Darkness and being alone have never been a trigger for me, so I'm at a loss here. I'm on Prozac (an anti-anxiety/depression medication) used to treat something different so I don't feel the need to go seek medication, I just don't know what to do with all of these new memories.
The abuse I can handle; the trafficking this time around ... not so much. I'm also new to Survivor Syndrome and though I understand it academically, and I am slowly learning how to cope having survived (and knowing other people didn't), I am far from having a mastery on it.
I'm sorry for writing so much and I appreciate any of you who have taken the time to read this far. I will do my best to get to my point quickly here:
Have any of you dealt with things like this before?
How do you handle panic attacks?
For those of you who have Survivor Syndrome in addition to your PTSD, how do you handle it?
Are there any techniques/tools for dealing with the emotional fall-out of Survivor Syndrome you find useful that are different than that of regular flash-backs?
And how do you forgive yourself? I realize I'm an adult now, and I was a powerless child then, but even child me wanted to save everyone (which is probably how I ended up with Survivor's Guilt in the first place).
Also, for those of you who have eidetic memories, what do you do to distinguish your past reality from your current reality?
Thank you in advance everybody. I'm sorry if this was too long for a regular forum post.
I'm new here and I need help. I don't know where to start so I am going to try to start at the beginning. I apologize in advance if this post appears long and convoluted.
I was raised in a household by a drug addict who had multiple personalities due to trauma in their childhood. As they say, the cycle of abuse often continues.
I was in and out of therapy throughout my teens years and successfully completed enough cognitive behavioral therapy for my abuse that my therapist reached a point they could no longer help me. I had flashbacks until I was roughly 18 and then they stopped. I assumed I knew everything there was left for me to know and managed to put it all behind me.
I started flash-backing again about a year and a half ago (nearly 10 years after my last flashback) and these flashes are different. Rather than abuse at the hands of family, these memories revolve around the year and a half I spent in a child sex trafficking ring (and no, I am not joking). I managed to verify that my memories are real (as I am sure you all know how nerve-wrecking that can be!) and ended up back in therapy with a new symptom last year: Survivor's Guilt.
I managed to escape the ring when I was almost ten and was shipped half way across the country to live with other people in my family. I met with the new therapist a few times this last year and she ultimately ended up telling me I'm well adjusted enough, and have enough positive coping skills for flashbacks, that there's nothing she can do to help me handle PTSD or Survivor's Guilt any better than I currently am (though she said she remained available if I ever needed someone to "listen").
I find the flashbacks difficult to handle because I have an eidetic memory. When my flash-backs hit, they hit me with full force: smell, taste, sensation, touch... and my brain can't distinguish between me being in a flash-back and me being conscious/awake. The extra senses I feel make everything more difficult to handle; when they come in my sleep, I often don't know I'm reliving flash-backs until I wake up present and in my bed.
This set of flash-backs is different in nature than my previous ones; rather than just short clips of me being beaten at the hands of family this includes me being (literally) sold to people for sex and torture. I was in a ring being shipped from house to house (or dungeon to dungeon) for a year and a half. At some point I gave up on ever escaping and saving myself; I hit a desperate low as a child and it haunts me in my sleep. When I have flash-backs in the form of dreams I can't tell they are dreams because even those have senses.
A few weeks ago I had flashbacks every night for six nights in a row; it lasted for so long that I was beginning to wonder which reality was "real." I questioned whether the me now with an amazing husband and loving daughter was just a dream that child-me was generating to help keep her sanity.
... and then today hit. I don't know what it is about today but I had the worst flash-back episode I've ever had. Ever. I didn't sleep well last night and found myself exhausted today; I attempted to get an hour of sleep in the afternoon but found myself so scared at the thought of sleep I had my first panic attack. I found myself jittery and anxious, my heart racing and my ears ringing. Even my worst episodes as a teen didn't include panic attacks, and I couldn't even tell you why I had one (though I suppose if I flash-backed in my sleep last night but don't remember it, that might explain it). I slept for 40 minutes tops.
After we laid my daughter down to bed this evening, my husband crawled into bed with me because he knows I was under the weather today. We lounged and chatted like we always do (this time it was mostly me talking about how "off" and exhausted I felt, and how sorry I was for it) and then he decided he was going to go upstairs and play video games. He turned off the light and shut the door (not uncommon, I tend to sleep best in cold, dark, quiet places) and I was hit by a paralyzing fear the likes of which I've never had to deal with.
I found myself terrified of the dark. The moment the door shut and the blackness enveloped me I found myself sobbing hysterically and shaking so hard I was near vomiting. My husband ended up coming back to the room but not before I started getting hit with flash-backs. I can't even begin to tell you how many I had in a row but it was like a cascade of dominoes falling into place, and I did not handle it well.
He managed to get me sitting upright (thank goodness he is retired military and has gone through PTSD training!) and managed to help ground me, but during the entire episode (15-20 minutes?) I mostly sat sobbing hysterically, gasping for air as huge waves of panic, anxiety, and sadness hit. I found myself unable to speak full sentences and found myself rubbing my fists in my eyes as I pulled at my hair.
Even in my worst as a teen I had never pulled at my hair. I think I had a full psychotic break tonight and it has me deeply concerned. Once my husband managed to get me outside he was able to "jolt" me back into reality (it is VERY cold where I live right now and I was in shorts and a tank top) and I feel okay. I spent an hour or so trying to understand, sort, and compartmentalize what I had recalled, and my husband managed to keep me from falling to pieces (for the most part!).
I do not feel suicidal, just deeply withdrawn. I'm exhausted but wide awake (I can't get the images out of my mind) and am concerned if another episode like this ever happens I might not mentally pull through it. I refuse to let these memories break me now when they couldn't break me then.
I considered trying to schedule a follow-up appointment with my new therapist (who said she's there if I need to talk) but I'm not sure that's going to change anything. I realize the fact I had a full-out episode and managed to recover within the same hour is more than any therapist could ever ask for. I realize my sleep concerns this evening are valid, and I have things I can do to keep myself busy, but I'm scared.
I am scared for my own mental health even if things seem okay. I've never had an attack like this, and panic attacks are new to me as a whole. I understand it was probably prompted by the quantity of flash-backs all at once and by the content that was in them, I just don't know who to reach out to or what to reach out for.
I have friends but I don't feel comfortable burdening them with this. I'm not ready to tell my husband yet what I recalled (and he's kind enough not to ask), I just want to know if any of you have been through this?
Darkness and being alone have never been a trigger for me, so I'm at a loss here. I'm on Prozac (an anti-anxiety/depression medication) used to treat something different so I don't feel the need to go seek medication, I just don't know what to do with all of these new memories.
The abuse I can handle; the trafficking this time around ... not so much. I'm also new to Survivor Syndrome and though I understand it academically, and I am slowly learning how to cope having survived (and knowing other people didn't), I am far from having a mastery on it.
I'm sorry for writing so much and I appreciate any of you who have taken the time to read this far. I will do my best to get to my point quickly here:
Have any of you dealt with things like this before?
How do you handle panic attacks?
For those of you who have Survivor Syndrome in addition to your PTSD, how do you handle it?
Are there any techniques/tools for dealing with the emotional fall-out of Survivor Syndrome you find useful that are different than that of regular flash-backs?
And how do you forgive yourself? I realize I'm an adult now, and I was a powerless child then, but even child me wanted to save everyone (which is probably how I ended up with Survivor's Guilt in the first place).
Also, for those of you who have eidetic memories, what do you do to distinguish your past reality from your current reality?
Thank you in advance everybody. I'm sorry if this was too long for a regular forum post.
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It sounds like most of the time you are able to cope, but can get easily overwhelmed with sudden flashbacks. Your therapist is missing this because she sees the more stable you. Have you tried DBT? http://www.dbtselfhelp.com/.
Perhaps you need to talk to another therapist or your doctor about these new feelings? Do you take meds? Perhaps your meds are not functioning as well as they once did. Sometimes meds stop working.
It would be nice if they came up with a magic solution to PTSD, it comes and sneaks up on us again just when we think we have it under control.
Welcome to the forum, the people here are awesome and have helped and supported me. Picked me up, dusted me off and helped me find my way through the dark days. The knowledge here is just awesome. I hope you find it helps you too!
(hugs)
My husband is very amazing; I couldn't imagine a better, more supportive person in my life. We balance each other's flaws well, and he brings a sense of stability to my life I can't help but appreciate.
I wouldn't say I get overwhelmed by flashbacks; for the most part they come and go and I am okay with that. I have learned how to deal with them, and when something triggers one in a social place it barely registers across my face/actions any more.
I sought out therapy when the new flash backs started last year but the therapist didn't have much to say I didn't already know. I think more than anything I just needed to say things out loud, verbally acknowledge that things happened, and begin to move forward again. I saw a lot of senseless violence against other children and wasn't sure how to address that (especially since I have a young daughter of my own now).
This is going to sound strange, but even my more recent flashbacks didn't strike me quite as hard as the ones today did. I view this almost as a singular incident on its own level; past the beginning of the new flash backs (as I was readjusting and uncovering new feelings I didn't have before), I have been handling everything well and appropriately. I'm not sure what went wrong today and the only thing I can really think is that there were so many memories back to back and running at the same time I couldn't keep my senses from overloading.
I had not heard of DBT (mostly because I had a lot of success with cognitive behavioral therapy as a teen and deliberately sought out a cognitive behavioral therapist for that reason this last year), but after looking into it, DBT might definitely be worth giving a try.
I already ascribe to yoga, meditation, and mindfulness as part of my coping skills so I am not sure whether a DBT therapist would recommend anything more than I am already doing, but it cannot hurt to try.
Also, I don't take medication for anxiety, mood stability, or depression. I don't mostly because I think (for me at least) medication hides my symptoms without getting rid of the problem. I would just as soon tackle the problem head-on and deal with it that way. That said, I am on Prozac (I have a muscular condition and my doctor has me on Prozac to help treat muscle level micro-tremors; as an anti-anxiety medication it builds on the other things I take which allows me to walk easier). I suppose I could ask my doctor to increase it or move me to something else, but I am not a big fan of psychiatric medication when it comes to my own use.
It's late where I am at and I am in grad school, so I am going to try to get some rest. I appreciate the kind words and all of the advice; it really means a lot to me. I will also be looking into DBT in the future, though I can't guarantee there will be any places that do that here nearby.
Thank you again for your time; it's nice to know I'm not alone.
Welcome to the group and I hope you are able to get some sleep.
I managed to not connect emotions to memories (a form of repression) until I was 43. Then I got hit so hard, mid physio-therapy for a pelvic-spine injury, that I was taken to an ER. Everything went. The only way to survive the full-sensory flashbacks to (bad stuff) was to dissociate from the present, but that didn't save me from the flashbacks. I was literally on my knees gasping for days until that "landmine" event ended.
Two and a half years have passed. I'm still in therapy twice a week, on meds, getting flashbacks, having meltdowns, and grateful my hubby looked up ways to help me and goes to a therapy session a week with me to learn calming and grounding (for us both, but it helps me since I often can't recall the techniques when in the bad place)....
My tale is nothing like yours in many ways, yet in the end, we all have the same story: We survived Bad Things. We found ways to cope. Sometimes the coping methods don't work. We help each other find new ones, or talk through it, or whatever else is needed. And sometimes, all we can do is offer our support, because while we don't know your *trauma*, we all know PTSD too well.
FWIW, I woke up in a sobbing hysteria this morning that took 40 minutes to get through. My hubby tried aromas, temperature shocks, singing, tactile (stuffed animals, cold tile, etc.), but the PTSD had me, and that was that.... And I'm on meds, etc.!
Dont' worry about how long and rambling a post gets. I am super-writer when stressed b/c I lose the ability to *speak*. (Argh.) It's not bothering anyone here:-)
Welcome, and I'm glad to meet you, and healing blessings to you:-)
Roughly every decade or so it seems I've had to start my recovery over. The last time was in 2011, so this time I was able to be more calm about it and get through it without a long hospital stay. My fiancee left me when symptoms began, so I had to figure out how to deal with them and stay functional for myself. I got kidney damage in the midst of the symptoms and so meds have been out since 2011. It's all therapy and this support group for me, and it's working well.
I wrote on another thread just today how I try to function positively with having to manage ongoing flashbacks. I wrote:
"Every day I have flashbacks, yes. A lot of my therapy involves how to respond to them, since they are a fact of daily life for me. As in whether I want to follow the prompt and stop what I'm doing to process the flashback and/or memory right not. Or whether I want to put it aside for later so I can be functional at work in the moment--say, in front of a class I'm teaching.
But they are as regular as clouds in the sky to me, and so they are a constant feature of my mental weather. Like clouds, can be benign and the sight of one isn't cause for panic. On the other hand, they don't always rain or make a hurricane, but they might. I have to keep an eye on them, and I can't beat myself for having them any more than I would beat myself up for the existence of clouds in the sky.
Hard level of acceptance to attain, but perfect cloudless days at will are impossible, so I'm trying for the acceptance thing."
Hope that helps.
General grounding techniques recommended for this.
When he has gotten derealized and psychotic, he's used snapping a rubber band on his wrist to bring him back to reality.
Telling myself this is 2015, not 1979 ( when I was six and, well, rented...) and finding five objects of the same color in the room, grabbing the carpet with my toes, doing yoga, drinking a glass of cold water, self-massage...all that helps me rejoin present time.
Survivor's guilt I unfortunately don't know from the inside. Intellectually, you know and I know nothing that happened while you were being enslaved by evil people was your fault.
But feelings and facts are two separate things.
I do know seeing another child be badly abused was one of the worst things I personally experienced...why I just de repressed that this year...and it is still a hurting thing.
I know I personally just had to grieve. A lot. No way around it for me/us. I had a " nervous breakthrough " of sorts in 2011, broke open in certain ways, found out I am plural inside?
But that's me.
If grief comes up? Let it. Better out than in.
I am not eidetic but I believe PTSD flashbacks do not operate by the same rules as normal memory, whatever your personal norm is. My own flashbacks tend to daisy chain. One flashback can lead to another until I am as dissociated as you describe when your husband found you. Before therapy, I often found myself unable to distinguish whether I was reacting to the flashback or a present day situation. Gnarly stuff. . . It is still sometimes hard for me to distinguish my past reality to my current reality, but it seems to be getting easier with practice. Yes, the flashbacks come complete with full, sensory assault.
Grounding techniques are my front line defense. There are tons of them on the internet. Simple is better, for my own case. Just something to keep me cognizant of the here and now. Touch is my own most potent sense. Running my fingers across my arm. A breeze on my face. Wiggling my toes in the dirt.
I have other tools I use, but until I have myself grounded in the here and now, I cannot use them effectively. First things first. . .
Again, welcome to the forum. Ramble freely.
I did try to put him away again but I didn't want to be made to feel like it's my fault all over again. I also find sleeping to be a big problem with me now. I having dreams and more dreams about every moment. It's hard for me to leave my home talk to my friends about all of this. My husband thinks it is all his fault because he was there to help me. And that really worries me too. I also on Cymbalta to try to help me. That also a anti-anxiety and depression. But my sleep is so scary.
I find therapy to be very hard for me because I get very upset if I feel I am not being listened to and judge. So I am trying to find new ways on my own to help me. I love to read. It takes me somewhere else out of my life and let's me think of better things. I love to bake and cook because I can make beautiful foods and it gives me somethings I can take all of my feelings out to make something so wonderful. Sorry I feel I am weird with my words sometimes. I also draw or I find talking on here even though I'm fairly new I really nice to talk with others that can understand.
I really hope I could help. Also maybe asking for a short term sleep medication I could help. I know some people do not like taking medication and feel that could lead to new issues but I believe if it is able to help then I will try because sometimes I feel like I am breaking apart.
Thank you for taking the time to share your story with me. I understand how difficult it must be to be where you are right now. As a survivor of sexual assault I understand the kind of toll that can take on you over time. I am glad to hear your father went away for what he did to you as a child, but I am so sorry to hear he got back out and did it again.
I just want you to know that it's not your fault. As a child there was NOTHING you could have done that would have warranted him getting involved sexually with you. He was an adult. He could have, and should have, stayed away from you. Even if you had approached him first (which I am confident you did not), as an adult it would have been his responsibility to say no and walk away. THIS. IS. NOT. YOUR. FAULT. I don't care what anyone says to you about what happened when you were a child, or what happened when you were an adult; there is NOTHING you could have done that could have come close to making it your fault.
He had no right. None.