A size 10 is smaller than what the average American woman wears--which is either a 12 or a 14.

If you are happy with the way you look and feel--who cares what anyone else thinks.

Well I speak ONLY for myself, I don't speak for society and I don't generalize about how most people think because I don't know most people and I can't get into anyone else's mind to know what they're really thinking.

Your statement "but initially you have to like something.....even the eyes can be attractive", I take that as meaning something physical has to be the initial attraction since you said you have to like something but "for me" that is not the case. As I said, I had very strong feelings for my partner as he did for me, we both knew we would be together and that was months before either of us knew what the other looked like.

Some people need an initial physical attraction and some people simply don't.

Is a blind person's initial attraction to someone a physical attraction?

Absolutely YES! I had a blind friend Carlos who use to come over for our dinner parties with his girlfriend , and yes he touched our faces to have a better sense who we are how could we look like. It created an image inside his brain. Sounds crazy right? But it happened and it is trough.Blind people touch and hearing develops a way more refine than ours. And...we can be attracted to a voice! Even a guy ,as i love Jean Reno's tone of his voice .Such of calming tone to it, i find it amazing. I use to love my X wife tone of voice, when she was on the road, i re listened her messages she left me....

Well I have to admit that Marilyn Monroe is one of the most beautiful sex symbols and women like Anjelina Jollie are beautiful to look at , but they are not the society as a whole like you speak of. See once again you are pigion holing. You speak of women as if they are play things and there only to be looked at. Well looks faid for one. If you dont have a solid foundation then you have nothing, but a playmate. Second of all I hate to tell you this , but the wourld population is made up of far more then just women on the strip with big hooters. I place no blame on you or judgement, but I see that your opinion has been jaded, by a life style.

I live in a rule community in the middle of Nebraska so I dont get to see the bright lights and big citys much, but I also dont find the women that occupie those areas to be attractive on any level other then sexual only and then again it would be women more like I stated before. The true sex symbols Like Marilyn and Angalina that are really larger women in the world of the sex symbol. They are neither a size 0 through 5 like the mainstream media likes to portray women.

I personnanly think women are all beautiful in there own way. Some have physical appearance , some have inteligence, some have love and the ability to show it, and some just plane have it all. I dont feel that a woman have to be a supper model to be attractive and IMHO i think supper models are very un-attractive in so many ways. I dont feel women should be stuck in a mold and all made the same. I dont feel anyone should EVER make a lady feel ugly for any reason .

I was brought up to respect and cherish all women in my life. My father was the greatest man I ever knew when it came down to treating ALL people with respect as long as they deserved it. Which brings me to a question for you Reminder.

Please explain what shaped your opinion to be what it really is ? Was it your Mother?
Was it your Father?
Is it life style or the culture you grew up in ?

I can agree with you on 1 thing and that on a sexual basis only some women are more apealing on the eyes, but with that said I have never had SEX. I have made Love to every woman I have ever been with physically and I will never change that about me. I find women all differant and all beautiful for differant reasons and I love them for there inner beauty over anything on the outside.

Reminder, you are sounding like an expert. Are you a PhD expert on body shape and marital success? What makes you such an expert on this subject besides going to clubs and oooogling large breasted skinny women?

I live and work in the blind community and there are a few misconceptions being perpetuated by a couple of y'alls posts! Thanks for the chuckle. Carry on.

Why does one moron have to hijack a whole post? I encourage you all to use the ignore button.

Reminder must have me on ignore as I can't read Reminder's posts. Probably just as well.

A good friend of mine in college was blind, and as far as I know, she still is.. She never put her hands on peoples faces to "see" what we looked like. She seemed to learn people from their voices and actions.. The only time I heard her say "let me see" to something was when someone had a fake diamond ring on that was about 3 times the size of a normal ring and we were all commenting about it. She put her hand on the ring and laughed. I suppose even blind people don't all do things the same way.

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Reminder - why do you generalize about so many things and assume that your thinking is the way that all men think?

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Wow. What else are you an expert on Reminder? I bet your wife is happy that you are on top of maintaining her weight for her.

I can't read Reminder's posts and that is probably a good thing. However based upon the many responses to him I can deduce that he is playing everyone here in an attempt to garner attention. Perhaps ignoring him will make him go away?

I agree with awesome, I don't have curves. I have a nice ass to make up for it. And my titties are itty bitty. But hey if I wanted an hourglass figure I could have surgery done. If I wanted big tits (which I do) then I could have surgery done. Beauty is only skin deep. What is on the inside is what matters. I am sick of women everywhere saying "real women" have blah blah blah, because in the end not every woman is made for an hour glass figure, not every woman is made to be in shape and toned. Not every woman will be skinny and twig-like. We all have our flaws. So for the life of God will the women in this group please shut the #@&* up about "real women"? It's getting on my nerves to see people generalize. Labels are for soup cans for God's sake. If I wanted a lecture about "real women" I'd go to a lecture group about it. But as it stands this "healthy sex" group is for people to discuss their sex or lack of, not to go onto a thread about confidence killers and say "real women" this or "real women" that. Your opinion may be just that but god dammit, it's f**king rude and uncalled for. Are the rest of the women w/out curves that are in this group any less of a woman than you? If so please show yourself to the door, because last I checked they are just as much of a woman as you are.

Thank you all for putting up with my rant. And with that aside, this friend isn't a real friend my dear. Kick em to the curve and start making new friends.