Too much power given to the incompetent,sadistic and paranoid IMHO.
Don't give up.

Oh, for crying out loud . . . is my daughter in charge there? If you did not tell youer gd it was for her, then what is the problem? Were you supposed to tell a lie like you were going out of town or something? This is insane!

I wonder where these people get their brains from...I reported that my son had bruises on him that he told me his grandmother had done with a belt and my visitation was then supervised...this was like 11 years ago. But I didn't do anything except report it and I GET SUPPERVISED VISITS.

This to shall pass...they like to throw their weight around.

stay stong.

Let's look at this realistically. Someone questioned the child re your phone call and took their assumptions out of it....that is clear. I know from our personal experience we had to be extremely careful of what and how we said anything as whacko stepmom was waiting to spring on us. She could manipulate whatever she wanted but we had to be careful not to look like we were manipulating. I am concerned that someone is feeding stuff to the caseworker to make you look bad. I think I w/challenge their decision and ask how they got info about your call. You w/have to promise that you w/be more careful in what you say (I know that's not fair) but grandparents don't have legal standing so we need to play the game according to their rules. It took us a over a year of this same type of game before things changed and we got our gs. Good luck.

You're right it was the foster mom. I'm not going to play their games...CPS is unfair and they stink! I'm not going to try a fix CPS or the system, I'm going to have my day in court. Everytime they do sh!t like this, it's just more ammo for me.
The supervisor is the one who called me and told me there was no room for discussion. She was at court on Monday as well for the first time. She removed my calls and visits the day after court to show me who has the ball and that she has total control . Its not in what is in the best interest of the children, its a power trip! If my attorney can get me into the case...They know they are in trouble! I am a big threat to them right now! The farther they can keep me away from the kids the easier it's going to be for them to do whatever they want without having to be accounted for on their actions or decisions.

So sorry you are going through this. I was so worried that this exact thing would happen when you first said you were going to let them take the kids temporary. As I knew it would be a battle for you to get them back. I hope that others will read your story and take something from it because it really is a risk when the state gets involved. As you never know which way things will go, what position they will take or who the workers will be, etc.,

If anyone needs help for a short period of time w/the kids due to health or whatever, maybe first see if a family member or long time trusted friend can lend a helping hand so this can be avoided. If a person has $ which I know most of us don't, perhaps even hiring someone to come in the home and help would be an option. I know you didn't have a choice and I feel so bad that you are now going through this mess. I hope it all turns out ok.

Unfortunately, you are right in that "best interest of the children" is preceeded by the legal rights of the bio parents and they hold all the cards. Therefore, CPS must legally honor the rights of the parents and only intercede if the children are in danger and that decision is their's, not yours or mine. Day in court? Maybe. However grandparents do not have legal standing in court and therefore fall at the bottom of the list. The "system" sees grandparents as little old gray haired ladies who should sit down and shut up and many have been told to do just that. If you want to win the war, you may need to lose a few battles. Your lawyer may be able to help as ours did, but it cost us our savings, our stocks, and our home before the courts finally admitted the bio dad and his wife were not fit. The only reason we were able to adopt is that the bio dad gave us permission because they had no money to fight. I'm not trying to upset anyone here but unfortunately this is the reality and most have come to this site seeking advice, support on how to deal with this. We are in this together and I don't think any case is unique. I am just warning you to be careful. You have an enemy in CPS and they hold the card to trash you in court.

Daisydduck, My case is not special, and I do come here for advise and to vent which has really assisted me in many ways. I have blogged for a year or good part of it, my case and whats been happening. I'm sorry your Bio parent put you through this. My daughter the bio parent wants me to receive the children back while she takes care of her rehab for marijuana use. This has nothing to do with the bio parent forcing issues..
CPS refused to give me the children back after I asked them for help due to my health issue and got the doctors report that I was in good standing. I asked them for a reason and they have never given me anything but a vague reason as to why they are refusing me. Once the children were placed in the foster home thats all it took.
The day I called and asked for their assistance in my time of need, the CW went off on my about her work load and how she was going to severance my daughters rights.(which didn't and couldn't happen) I had to reminder her several times during that phone call that this was not about her or my daughter it was me and the kids and what I needed for me and the kids.

The system is broken...I can't fix it on just one case or alone! I'm just trying to get my GK back with me where they are loved, just as much as they love us.

The general public has a very strong negative opinion about CPS and their reputation stinks. This didn't just happen because of a few bad eggs in the bunch.... This happened because of a lot of bad eggs and poor judgment allowed by "we the people "and the "judicial system". Grandparents have no rights, but just like women had to fight for "womens rights" we are the generation to fight for "Grandparents rights". I have no problem taking on this fight. I'm fighting it now with my grandchildren by doing what I'm doing.. one case at a time. If or I should say, when I get them back, I will be ready to take on more for Grandparents rights.

Just think about what you did for your grandchildren. You used up all of your funds to fight for them... I will if need be do the same. I think we all would or have, because we love our grandchildren and our hearts are bigger than money. We know how to sacrifice for love, we may not like it, we may get angry and fantasize about the what IF life, but we know the answer deep down inside, that if we had to do it all over again for our grandchildren...We would!

Understand your passion but passion has to have direction and focus. You might want to read my book: "Born Into Love, the Unconditional Love of Grandparents Raising Grandchildren". You can purchase it at a discount at www.peggyjoconnor.com. I researched the subject for two years beyond my personal involvement. btw, women's rights were only partially changed. The glass ceiling has become a difficulty to break plexiglass ceiling.

I just recieved good news from Lawyer...Wish I could share, I will share this with you. CPS knew I belong to this forum!

I remember in the beginning when CPS called me and asked to take GS. I didn't know how I was going to afford to pay for daycare and I knew my husband wasn't on board however; due to reading some info online (lucky for us) I learned possession is 9 tenths of the law. I knew that the bio mom's mother was dead and her father was in Ohio that we had to step in because if he would have gone to foster care they would have 1st choice to adopt him. I would have had to hire a lawyer to even be heard and I may or may not get visitations.
Thank God, my husband came around after a few weeks of being mad at me. Plus, I was worried about money and childcare however; all the teachers & staff at the School I worked pitched in and gave us many baby items and money to help us until we can find the resources or in our case budget our money to pay for childcare.

So, it is important that we all share these lessons because I know for me I didnt know much in the beginning. Plus, I remember a past neighbor who was a foster parent who told me that Social Services would give her a break I think once per month by having another foster home care for foster children she was caring for. However; now I know we arent equal to foster care and dont get the same benefits as them.

My heart goes out to you and your grandchildren...we will pray for you.

Judi

grandma, I think you can still talk w/people on line but you do have to be careful especially on facebook. DS does have a function where you can send email to a specific person or persons in the group. That s/be secure but not sure. I am working on opening a resource center on line for grandparents but I think I will be checking out about security. Just watch what you are saying. If you don't want others to know about it, don't type it. This caution is especially important if you are involved in a legal matter. Remember what goes on the internet stays on the internet, forever.

grandma, this is a public site which means anyone can come on and say they are a grandma. Anyone can read the posts, just like facebook though in different format. It's one thing to just talk about our common situations but if there is a legal matter involved, one s/be very careful about what they say. For an example, just pick another group from the list and go read their comments. It's that open.

It's for that reason that I haven't told anyone in my family or circle of friends that I'm on this forum.

Sara, it took me less than 20 seconds to google you and find your ds profile. All one would have to do is sign up for daily strength and they could access this group and read your posts.