Blue - hate to hear the latest. You remember who I compared him to the other day. Even more evident now. What type of human being does he think would want to live with him. I know I would not want to do so & certainly not any who are still breathing!!! He needs to look in the animal kingdom for someone - perhaps a Cobra & a gator.

Best of luck with this new move. You are right about those who do not have fibro not getting it.

Oh, I can hardly wait for you to get out of this situation. Hire packers. Then sue him for fraud and for pain and suffering...and...and...and I am furious that you are in this situation.

Sending you gentle and loving hugs.

Having moved 3 times (soon to be 4) in the past year, I totally feel your pain...it will be worth it when all is said and done to be away from this guy though, getting out of your lease is probably the best situation even if it's tough right now. Good luck!

I agreed with you when you said it was a bad idea way back when you were looking. I had a strong feeling that he had no intention of ever moving into the cottage. He has no business renting out his place. Has he ever had a tenant? I wish you much luck finding a better place. I pray the right one is just waiting for you.

SugarBear, sending him a gator or cobra to live with would be awesome! That's probably the only thing he can get along with. :)

Jrk, I can totally relate to that. We have been bouncing around constantly over the past several yrs. I wanna say 5x in 3 yrs (on average every 6 months) but it could be more. So I'm definitely sick of moving!

Marion, me too! We already spent so much money on the move. PLus my husband isn't teaching any summer courses this year (no income till fall). I don't know if hiring packers would be a good idea. We're just going to have to suck it up and pack it ourselves. Thank you for the hugs :)

Bobbii, He says that he has rented the rooms to many tenants before. Has complaints about all of them. Goes on and on about it.
I had the same feeling too. I tried to tell my husband way back then that it didnn't make sense to rent with him, because of our situation with my mom coming and her specific needs (all our needs for that matter). The last thing we needed was an extra person around in the picture further complicating things. So when we interviewed with this man, we were VERY CLEAR about our needs and that it wouldn't work with him living in the house with us. THat we needed to rent a place ALL TO OUR SELVES. So he told us then his plan was to eventually rent out the whole house anyway (because he recently retired and wants to go traveling), and THAT was in the works. I had a bad a feeling the whole time about it but both my husband and the landlord talked me into it. They both claimed they had a "good feeling" about it and that it would all work out for the long term. (rollseyes). What a bunch of bull.

He wasted our time, energy, and money. Just playing mind games with us. He would talk to us about switching the utilities over into our names. He had this discussion with us multiple times. We talked about where to set up the garden my husband and I wanted to grow veggies. But I started getting nervous because he was all talk. Every time I wanted to start putting something into motion, he would not approve "yet". Delay delay delay. I knew something was up.
And then when we had that argument (I mentioned in the previous thread) and the landlord said he wanted us to be ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY, that was confirmation to me right then and there that he never had any intentions of moving out. That he was looking for tenants to replace the family who left him.

I tried to explain this to my husband that day, but he said I totally misunderstood what the landlord was trying to say. According to my husband he was just trying to say he hopes we can work out our differences and be friends. NOPE. I was right. Dude is just one lonely maniac who likes toying with people's lives.

My husband keeps telling me to look on the bright side. But I can't help being angry at this situation. We spent so much time and energy (and in my case PAIN and fatigue) unpacking and making the place "home" just to turn around and pack it all back up = more energy and pain. Because we got toyed with. And most of all, because I listened to people and not my own intelligent brain that was telling me this didn't add up! Yes, I guess there is a bright side to it. We won't have to be living with this a-hole anymore.

Blue, I know exxxxxacccctly what you mean about "I told you, and now I'm gonna hurt b/c you wouldn't listen" thing... So frustrating!

Do be aware as you pack that the landlord will be on you like fly on poop and may claim you're taking things that are "his". I swaer my one evil relative furnished her house that way, just harangued tenants into leaving things behind that she liked. And she wasn't even house-sharing. Ugh.

Big hugs of support and a thousand (virtual) cookies to you, of ten varieities!

Leo, I know what you mean with the "theft" accusations. The place we just moved out of on Oahu had everything: dishes, towels, sheets, some furniture, etc, and that's exactly what the shyster landlord tried to accuse us of (and minus from our deposit) even though we actually added to his collection, not take. SMH

Thanks for the thousand cookies! Yum! xoxo

Landlord from hell and it's a pain and stress to pack up and look for a new place to live after you JUST moved in. And as awful as it is, once you do find another place and move in and all that is overwith you will feel at peace and be so glad you don't have to deal with the a-hold landlord............Now, let's just hope he doesn't try to sue you for breaking a lease, Get it in writing that he wants you out, that it's not working out, or whatever, anything to say he is breaking the lease, not you.

I just had a bad roommate situation, somewhat similar, who tried to sue me after moving out even though I gave her 3 weeks notice plus 2 months of rent after I moved out, and she accused me of taking HER stuff... but it was half of the groceries I paid half for, of course I took half!. I also left behind the big things we split like the microwave, 2 rugs, some wall dcor... $200 worth of crap she bought and then took out of her half of rent saying I owed her half for all this stuff she bought when I didn't even agree to it, she withheld it from her first month of rent AND also didn't tellme she was going to do that AND paid it to me 5 days late, so I still had to cover the entire rent for the first month we moved in and that just set everything off from there, and if you can veleive it things got worse and worse and worse.. Her trying to sneak on a 3rd roommate behind my back at the office, and I found out from the office, and since that didn't work out she just had them stay all the time anyway, and we had a 3rd room, but did she bother to make it into a bedroom NO, she had everyone crash on MY couch, watching MY tv, and using my dishes, my table and my everything...for her live-in guests, I put up with it much longer than I should have, We had good talks where I thought she understood and then she would do the same thing anyway, Finally I just had it, it took 4 months to decide to move out . THEN she tried to claim she didn't know I was moving and came home to an "empty apartment" I said well first of all YES you knew, we talked and I told her when the moving guy was coming. I even CLEANED the place and took pics after, but OF COURSE the furniture is gone, ti was all MY FURNITURE. Everything was mine. All that was hers was whatever was in her bedroom, and some kitchen gadgets.

I agree about getting all of this in writing. I believe that he committed to the lease period, so if you really wanted to cause yourself extra aggravation, you could sue him.
For me, I would find a place and move ASAP, go forward and don't look back.
Also, ALWAYS listen to your gut. It will always tell you the truth. The last time I failed to do this, my house was robbed! I'm never doing that again.
Good luck and now, on to bigger and better things..don't worry, be happy.

This guy definitely seems like the kind of person who'd kick you out and then try to sue you for unpaid rent. Such a sleezeball. He's always going to be unhappy and alone and wil probably die in the house no one wanted to share with him and no one will know he's gone for weeks. May be gruesome, but I was furious for you. I hope everything works out and that you find a place you don't have to move from too soon. I've had to move 4 times in almost 2 years, including a move to a different state. It sucks, but it will be worth it. Lots of hugs to you!

Bluesun, for what it's worth, just know that I support you. I know I'm no help all the way in Wisconsin, but I'm here to listen.

I feel so bad about this situation with the rotten landlord. I pray you find a new place very quickly. And let's not borrow trouble about the guy suing you. I think he will be glad to see you gone, just as you will be glad to go. He's just a pain in the butt, and best left in the rear-view mirror.

Take care.

Thank you, everyone for the support and for the great suggestions. I talked it over with hubby and we will definitely get him to put it in writing that *he* is "letting" us out of the lease, not us walking away from it.

Also, as angry as I am about this whole thing, I have come to the understanding that God knows what's best for us... and trying to make it work with this landlord was NOT it. It's beautiful here, but this wasn't meant to be our home... He has a better place in mind for us just around the corner. I am anxious to get there! I guess this is why He gave us a way out, even though it came out in this form. But it's better than being stuck in a binding lease as things continue to get worse.

But for some odd reason my husband keeps saying we should try to bide our time and stick around here. I completely disagree. I think he's lost his mind and I partly blame him for getting us into this mess in the 1st place. My instincts are telling me to get out, so that's what I'm going to do. I'm sure Leo can understand this one with PTSD. If this narcissistic a-hole wants us gone, why should we stick around?

Blue, listen to those survival instincts! Your inner angel voice, as my mom used to call it, is telling you to get away before Bad Thing Happens. Your hubby may not want to admit to being wrong, he may not realize anything is, whatever, but go go go, okay? Tell him from me that people like that landlord *hope* you bide your time and "stick it out" so they can stick it to you. I'm related to one, God help me and all others in the gene pool. I know the routine. I've seen it all my life. You can't bide your time or wait them out. This is how such people get their thrills. The longer you stay, the more you lose to them.

If I read the situation correctly from afar? His next step will be to do something petty but vastly irritating. E.g., he'll start throwing out your food and claiming it was spoiled or going bad, and if he offers you his food, he'll want money for it. He'll call that "fairness" and "being a good person". (Yep, my aunt did that one to her apartment-mate in college. She started young.) Then he'll wave the lease if you try to break it, without realizing that landlords can break leases, too. (They can. Contract law. Either party in a contract can violate the terms of the contract. Landlords bet on people not realizing that the landlord is a part in the contract, and as subject to its terms as the lessee.)

It sucks to move, but this guy? Is sucking your spirit. Such are best left to themselves. I'd also bet that, like my aunt, his claim he's fixing up the guest house for himself is total BS. Heard *that* before, only it was the space above the garage, or the old barn or the walk-out basement or (fill in blank). Sometimes people are telling the truth. Sometimes, they tell enough truth to cover the massive lie. And sometimes, they drag out what they belive to be true ("I really am gonna fix that building up for myself") to make sure nothing in their situation ever changes, other than their cry that they are the victim/misunderstood/etc.

Puma power to you, Blue.

I am also no help all the way here on the East Coast, but I agree with the others -- get everything in writing! And, as someone who is married to a genius who is never wrong unti he realizes he is wrong and then won't admit it, I have learned to state during "discussions" that we don't need to place blame on who made the decision we just need to come together to rectify the situation. Best of luck on that conversation!