Well, he's already all over YouTube, I doubt this is the first place all those links will show up if someone googles my uncles name. You forgot your post? Oh my! Well if you remember please follow up and let me know. All help is appreciated Advocate :-)

I just looked over my posts - I do not see that I mentioned a lawyer? I did say if you create a page to mock them back make sure you do not cross the line of being illegal. The person that created the fake registry to shames the lawyers and probation officers etc. was a registered citizen (RSO) The people he put on the site took him to court and the judge said the web page could stay up because it was free speech. One thing I know if that you cannot lie about them in any way ... that would be liable. If you know the names of these folks finding their address would be simple - when they send coupons and such send them right back ...

People like that are just plain bullies - they find great fun in making "examples" of sex offenders because basically the government has told them (and the media) that these folks are no longer human - which removes the responsibility from the bullies. These stings with no real victim does absolutely nothing to save anyone because there is no real victim. And yet if you talk to the general public (and I have talked to some) they believe the person involved certainly would have found a real victim eventually. What they do not realize and what the gov't and media do not tell people if that most often these are crimes of circumstance - in other words without the "sting" the sex offender may have not been involved in this at all. Many times the stings start out as someone saying they are older and then they do a bait and switch etc. People still believe all the false statistics out there even though years of research have shown that they are untrue. Bullies get power and pleasure from others pain and misfortune and these kind of bullies use the guise of being a champion for the abused children - in reality they do not give a fig about the children - they feed off of the bullying. Look into their backgrounds - how many of them actually work with victim advocacy groups etc.or other such support ? I would be willing to bet not many and maybe none. If they took all that time and effort the use to create these crimes and then bash the people involved to actually helping REAL victims then that would be helping the children. If our gov't spent half the money and time they spend on sex offenders laws and the registry on addressing the real issue about sexual abuse (within the family or known to the victim circle) we would really be helping these children. But they don't - they choose to perpetuate the "stranger danger" myth and most people drink that kool-aid

Advocate, you said "If they took all that time and effort the use to create these crimes and then bash the people involved to actually helping REAL victims then that would be helping the children. If our gov't spent half the money and time they spend on sex offenders laws and the registry on addressing the real issue about sexual abuse (within the family or known to the victim circle) we would really be helping these children. But they don't - they choose to perpetuate the "stranger danger" myth and most people drink that kool-aid."

I just have to say - AMEN! You are soo right, we could be much more effective in preventing and stopping sexual abuse if we focused on education and prevention programs. Why wait until a child has been harmed, why do a bait and switch? Why have laws that punish sex offenders more and more, but do nothing to protect society? All of these cost tax payers so much more for little result in preventing sexual abuse. We could spend a whole lot less by offering education and prevention programs, and have a much higher success rate in preventing sexual abuse.

Advocate, when you said " there is a website that an RSO set up to ridicule lawyers and probation officers etc", I thought you meant they set up a site for lawyer help... sorry terrible reading skills on my part lol

Yea the sting he was caught in was such crap. It was on national TV so just imagine everyone saw it, that's how they "discovered" him I guess. And that's where they get material to make videos of him. And you know what pisses ME off about the sting so much? The fact that this decoy chatted with him for over 1 month! An entire month!!! What crap is that? Who has that much time? And she told him that she loved him and wanted to marry him, and totally did what she could to make him come and visit. It was so entrapment, IMO. Judge disagreed.

The bullying is terrible, I don't see how people get pleasure out of someone else's pain. And no one seems to care. Why does society allow this? I agree with all you said, but I just do not get it. My uncle, and so many other people, did their time!!! Even if you want to support the criminal justice system, let these people do their time and leave them be! Being a RSO is bad enough. And it's even worse in Maine where they post your workplace address too :(

Its time for people to start understanding pedophilia and developing compassion for people born with the desire to have relationships with people (very young people) who can never be available to them.

After my husband was arrested, there were some absolutely horrible things said about him online. The behavior was very, very childish. The people who did it defended themselves by saying they "had a right to their anger." I don't disagree with that, but this was definitely not adult behavior and there is no need for grown people to act that way.

Ultimately, there will be compassion for people born with this attraction. Over the past 5 years or so, I have seen a tremendous amount of activity going in that direction, whereas, 5 years ago there was almost none.

I agree with Rew. There will always be people who act like idiots because they are trying to make themselves feel superior in comparison to someone who is in pain. If you find that they are doing something illegal, GO GET 'EM. If not, stay as far away as possible. The world of these dopes feeds on the pain of others. Give them as little fuel as possible and they burn themselves out.

Thing that gets me though is that the diagnosis and definition of pedophilia is based on societal beliefs at the time - what I mean is that 50 or 60 years ago a man that married a 14 yr old girl was not considered a pedophile of deviant - it happened all the time

Advocate, I am not sure that 50-60 years old grown men were marrying 14 year olds. If you could show me that was so, I would like to see. Sex may have been legal, but I do not think marriage was common between a 14 year old and a 30 some year old. At least not in the US. I do not think a 14 year old is mature enough to make life decisions, I agree with people who say that. But to clarify, I do NOT think it should be criminalized and be used as a reason to label people "pedophiles" for the rest of their life.

Well actually yes they were .. but what I actually wrote was that 50 or 60 years ago it was not uncommon for grown men to marry women (and they were considered women) that were 14 or older. Actually since mankind began once women were past puberty they were considered women of marriageable age. So in other words for thousands of years 14 old women were considered adults ready for marriage - the time in society when they have not been considered that is a drop on the bucket - no one has to think that is ok but it is a fact ... you can change the rules but you cannot change the humanity

Sorry, that's what I meant to type. And I am not talking about thousands of years ago. I do not think that 50-60 years ago men, say in their 30s, were marrying 14 year olds. Again, I do NOT think sex or any relationship should be criminalized, but I wouldn't support a 14 year old getting married to a 30 year old. But anyways, this has really nothing to do with my OP. That's a discussion for another day.

I do not approve of what my uncle did, and I do not condone it, I am just asking for legal and social relief for him and people like him. And I think we are all on the same page there.

Elvis and Pricilla, Jerry Lee Lewis and his cousin who was 13? I think. There's 2 well known ones from 50 or soyears ago. Errol Flynn, was known to like the 14-15yr olds too. That's just off the top of my head.

The person you mention who has a registry for those who support the SOR is Dennis Sobin and his website is www.idiotsregistry.info.

Here's a news article about him. http://tinyurl.com/pnmg8nk

DealRme, I sympathize with you, but I choose not to look at any of the Youtube videos you shared. I just don't have the energy to deal with the stress I know they would cause me. I would suggest you strongly consider not looking at them any more either.

You can't control what those idiots do online. But you can control whether or not you look at it. Find some other Youtube videos to look at, instead. I was just looking at some really cute videos today of dogs and young babies together. One video showed a full-grown huskie playing very gently with a young baby. It was so sweet!

They say it takes ten positive experiences to outweigh the impact of one negative experience. You might want to consider looking at lots and lots of cute puppy videos or cute baby videos to outweigh the impact of those bullying videos.

from what I have read it was often a geographic factor - in the cities etc. people did wait longer to get married (but they legally could have gotten married very young) in rural areas it was more common for a 20,30, or older man to marry a 14 or 15 yr old. It wasn't an issue. They were not thought of as weird or anything. Both of my parents grew up in the farm area of upstate NY and both of my grandmothers and great-grandmothers were 14 and 15 when they married. It is estimated that Mary the Mother of Christ was 15 when he was born.

However, they point being that attraction by males to younger post-pubescent women is not considered deviant behavior by psychologists etc. - however by law it is now thought to be deviant and so any male that finds himself attracted to these women feels ashamed and really it is human nature fighting against the law and the general public that seems to accept it now - and really it does have to do with your situation. People have been fighting against the stigma of being an RSO since it began - the general public will never see the light or the truth until they are put in the situation. If things continue the way they are eventually most families will be affected by these inane laws in some fashion. Right now the bullies have their target and that is not likely to change (they feed off of it) - in reality if you care about your Uncle I would make sure he is ok and focus on that. Unfortunately, their is not much legal help here just some experience.

Great advice Honest -

BTW - I saw that someone created a FB page with your Uncles name citing that he was a public figure I reported it for two reasons - he is not a public figure and it was surely created with the sole intention of harassing him some more. Also, supposedly FB does not allow RSOs to have Facebook pages so why is this one allowed to stay up? If they are going to allow it to stay there solely based on the info that he is a public figure then he should have access to it - it is created in his name and has his picture on it ...