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Hey, Please sign this petition opposing HR 515
https://www.change.org/p/u-s-house-of-representatives-vote-against-hr-515?recruiter=23487357&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=share_email_responsive
https://www.change.org/p/u-s-house-of-representatives-vote-against-hr-515?recruiter=23487357&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=share_email_responsive
Also on our board is Catherine Carpenter, Vice dean, Honorable Professor of Law, Southwestern Law School.
These great people and many others (who do not have a dog in the fight) are supporting our causes. Simply supporting our constitutional rights and fighting against those whose lies have destroyed us.
In order for us to effect change for ourselves and loved ones we must stand together and do our part.
Even though HR 515 will not effect me, I am begging you to sign it, simply because it is wrong.
Thank you for responding. I am so disenchanted that you have been the only one. I'm having a hard time understanding why people don't get more involved. This bill most likely won't effect any of my family members but could effect a great deal of other people. But, those on this site don't seem to care.
Until people rise up and do something even as small as (signing a petition) nothing will ever change.
Sad.
I have done all of those things...plus,
I have been involved with RSOL since it's inception 2005. I have served on several boards, I serve on a board with Janice Bellucci, I attend board meetings every month. I have traveled to the state capitol to testify and serve as a lobbyist. I have traveled and testified at numerous city counsel meetings throughout our state.
I have traveled and attended several RSOL conferences throughout the nation. I have written countless letters and made so many phone calls. I also have donated thousands of dollars to this cause.
And there are many more here in California that have done much more than I and we are starting to see changes.
Signing a petition reminds us we are trying to do something to help our situation even if it fails. And since I have often said that dealing with the registry is partially a mental exercise as well as an exercise in patience and courage, any advantage we can achieve is beneficial.
rewdaizepam
PS And Californianative, I am impressed and applaud the work you do. I, too, speak with politicians and educate as much as I can on our behalf----and it is not easy sometimes.
Are online petitions effective? Probably not, but like you stated, "a petition reminds us we are "trying" to do something to help".
Isn't anything better then nothing? What can it hurt?
I am offended and saddened at the remarks that were made by wisconsinRSOL
If and when you ever get a chance look at our website ( californiarsol.org ) and see what great strides we have accomplished in our state thanks to Janice, our leader, and all the efforts of our boards.
The folks in California are certainly well organized out and you probably have the most effective state chapter of all the states. You have a lot of people willing to really dig in and get their hands dirty, so to speak, to change these laws. I know because I talk to some of them. But honesty, one of the major reasons you have been so successful is that you have an attorney---Janice----willing to file law suits against towns and municipalities when they pass these laws. I can think of no other state who has such an advocate who happens to be an attorney and is actively filing so many lawsuits.
You would still be well organized there in California, but you would not be as successful in fighting back the laws without Janice.
You said, " Isn't anything better then nothing? What can it hurt?"
I don't think they do hurt anything, but I also think that for certain issues, they are not very effective. But whether they do or don't, they give us a psychological boost. They make us feel as if we are at least doing something to help our situation.
At least that is my opinion.
One thing I think petitions might---might possible do----is get some of these ridiculous sex offender issues and laws in the minds of others. We cannot ever hope to win our battles until we get people talking about the unfairness of some of these restrictions.
For issues such as the Anderson young man---Zach Anderson--- they can be effective since everyone walking on this planet Earth was a teen once and made some very bad decisions. Many on this very board had sex before they were 18 years of age and that sex was with another underage teen.
As a result, everyone can relate to his situation. In other words, they can look back and think, "Gee, I did the same thing when I was a teenager." People empathize with such situations.
Petitions in favor of sex offenders are a much harder sell. Not too many people can relate to some of the crimes that put offenders on the registry. And even fewer people realize that the great majority of registrants are not evil people and did not commit a crime for evil purposes, but instead just made a mistake and exercised terrible judgment.
But no, I don't think petitions hurt anything. But I do understand why people---even those in our movement----feel as if they are not effective.
rewdaizpam
regards
buildingupslow
All that is good and fine, but the danger is that signing one of those online things gives someone the feeling like they have done something, when, in fact they have done something but nothing of substance.
If people are against IML, they should directly contact their representative in Washington, DC, with their address and the the fact that they are constituents and these people work for them. They should contribute to efforts to defeat it, financially or actually time speaking up.
In California, quite a few bills have been stopped, perhaps because people could be bothered to show up. A few weeks ago there was a bill and there were 20 plus people in attendance to oppose. Quite a few must have driven hours or days to utter one sentence into the microphone. THAT makes a difference. I know some of these people have donated money - to the point of where they feel it - whatever that may be.
You may very well be one of them, so I assume you are aware. Those are things that get results. Not putting a fake name on an internet petition and the lean back and feel like you have done your part. When in fact it is completely meaningless.
You said, "One of the things petitions might do is get these ridiculous issues and laws on the minds of others."
Exactly!
The reason I posted the petition is because JANICE asked the board to sign and pass it on. So I did.
Some information that we pass it on to others are not registered citizens but citizens, law professors, lawyers, etc., who might after reading it, realize how horrible some of these laws are getting. It "might" draw attention to the fact that registered citizens and their families constitutional rights are being violated.
After reading the petition they might learn that this is the first time in U.S. history that they will vote to put "identifiers" on passports. I just want to draw attention to anything that might help in some small way.