Ivy he did not have to petition the court - it was an automatic thing and part of his sentence - when he went to get his papers from the court the told him he did not have to register since 2008 - it was an automatic thing

Page 21 here (at least it shows as page 21 on my phone)


http://californiarsol.org/lawsbystates/states/rsol%20michigan%20reg%20req%20140422.pdf

But the section of law is : MCLS § 28.728 (2014)

I took Josh's comments of not having to register since 2008 as falling under MI's law that allows people to petition off. It's in the same link above - the petition process.

If he was 100% then they can't charge him - like Rew said.

But I thought his record was just expunged this year.

Advocate I did have to petition the court. my record was expunged but i just got off the registry on tuesday

oh I misunderstood then? i understood that this was not part of MI's law or anything but was part of your sentence because you were a juvenile at the time?

Either way this is crap and my prior response stands! They would have to be idiots to violate you!

In MI (and some other states) they allow a registrant the ability to petition the court for EARLY removal based on good behavior.

So in 2008 he could have filed papers with the court and jumped through the hoops needed (the hoops and success rate vary by state) and perhaps won the right to be off early.

But because he didn't file the legal papers (which he didn't know about) then he was still required to register up until either his birthday this year (March?) or until he filed papers - I'm unclear if his obligations ended automatically in March but they just let him stay on the list or if to be removed he had to file something.

Either way March or October I suspect he had a FB account prior.

Honestly, I'd attack the 'willfully' part. Josh was in no way trying to avoid his obligation. He thought he was doing everything correctly. The laws are so confusing and always changing I cannot believe a DA would pursue this case or a judge convict if a decent lawyer was involved.

Elections will be over soon and honestly this seems a waste of tax payer money.

Of course 'they' would see it as a win since it would probably stick him back on the list. I'm a little unclear.

Hang in there Josh! Don't let this system steal your JOY! And don't let them WIN! You are the WINNER because you just don't give up! Rooting for you!

Josh, you wrote: "I am about to end it all. End this nightmare. I can't do it anymore. I really can't."

And then, you wrote: "I just got off the registry."

Sorry, but that does not compute! My two sons, who are still in prison, will have to register for the rest of their natural lives.

If I were your friend or family member and you told me you were considering suicide, I would immediately call a suicide hotline. One should never dismiss the seriousness of a suicide threat and I take you VERY seriously. I can't call a hotline, because I have no idea who you are. But, please know there are people around you who do care and would be very hurt, if you did end it all.

You can call a hotline yourself, too. For the sake of all your friends and loved ones, call!

Honest I think Josh was feeling that way because he just got the notice of removal and the officers showed up citing violations that he committed (or so they say) that are against the rules for registered citizens - the fear being that the removal might be rescinded?

Josh have you heard anything else about this crap?

I haven't heard anything yet the officer said he would call if they issued a warrant and he never called nor showed up to arrest me. So that has to be a positive.

I think about suicide alot because of being on the registry because of the restrictions because of doing anything that happens in my life may be construted as a violation. I have tried a few times but was unsuccessful. Sometimes I think it would be better to end it all vs dealing with this hell that is imposed on us registered citizens.

I already have a judges signature on an order of removal so from everything that I have read I am off. Only time will tell.

Hang in there Josh; I will let the more savvy members advise you, but know that we are behind you!

I think there is a little twist here. Josh's record was expunged and they didn't tell him! Once the record was expunged his requirement to register ceased to exist regardless of having to petition the court to be released from the registry. In order to petition the court to be removed, the court has to have a record of his requirement to register. If the record has been expunged then the record no longer exists and there's nothing to petition for

That is what I was thinking - but Josh says it was not expunged until later and that he did petition but I had thought when he went to get his records they had told him it was already expunged - not sure

Josh,

Just hang in there, my good friend. I am pretty sure no DA would even touch this.

Just think, they have done just about everything they could do to you and you are still standing. After this, I am pretty sure they will leave you alone.

If you need to talk, PM me.

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I agree with REW - they would have to be nuts to go in front of most judges with this