Yeah thats for sure.

When my son was sentenced a year after the raid to his home he went to the worst state prison in Floriduh, Polk. He was put on suicide watch because we were afraid of him killing himself. Suicide watch is where they strip you naked, give you a sheet and a matt to sleep on. There was no toilet paper in that cell and he couldn't get any and was watched, no privacy. When he got out he was in a dorm. The water faucet was located on top of the toilet and you needed a spork to aim the stream of water because it was broken, they all were. He didn't have commissary money for over a week. It was freezing, he had only the few clothes they gave him, which he showered in to wash them and then drip dried. He got sick from the soy in the food and had the shits for a week, which is not easy when you're sharing a roll of toilet paper with one other person. He went in Nov and spent his 21st birthday in Dec and Xmas.
He was there for 3 months and then transferred to Federal prison. I could tell you more nightmares but it's not just happening to you.

Psalms,

I was in a county jail before I was transported to the state prison system. This county jail was so bad that it had been condemned by the state jail inspectors, but they left it open until they could get a bond issue that would give them the money to build another country jail.

There were cockroaches bigger than I could ever imagine crawling around everywhere. The toilets only flushed half the time and the "shower" was only a trickle of water so keeping clean was impossible. They furnished no soap or razors to shave.

I remember one morning at breakfast they gave us oatmeal with clabbered milk. All we had for lunch was peanut butter sandwiches with water. At supper we did get a little better meal, but it was still horrible.

These places are a terrible existence, but as far as survival, they are doable. I know your husband is not weak, but he will just have to get tougher and "bite the bullet" until he can get to a better place to serve his time.

I was in lockdown and I NEVER once got out of my cell or even saw daylight in many months.

It is just wasted time to try and do anything about the visits or the refusal to let him outside for an hour a day. Prisons and jails consider visits a privilege and not a right, so you will make no progress there. Nobody will ever take up the complaint that he is not getting out an hour a day or not getting his commissary on time.

He will have to learn to pick his battle. Not allowing him access to his attorney is a huge rights violation as is not allowing him to see a physician for health matters.

All the other aspects of prison life is thus that----prison life.

Send me a PM today and we will talk.

rewdiazepam

As you tell us more and more of your husband's reactions to the treatment, it is obvious that he is not in a position mentally to fight. He is depressed and is not in a place where he can even get angry about the treatment he is receiving so that he can muster the strength to start to fight this.

Documenting is not just getting the forms but also writing down on whatever he has handy a journal of when he asks for things and the result, when they come to let him out of his cell and the times. things like that. Just because he can't file it doesn't mean he can't keep track for when he can. But like I said earlier, it doesn't sound like he is in a place to even try to do that at this point.

Getting him out of that slump is not your job, I know it feels like it, but he is also responsible for himself as well. Your real responsibility is to make sure that you have home out there and one that he can come home to. I understand your frustration with the PD, you need to get the Limited POA so that you can at least help legal research and other things that may help with the defense. Being active in his defense is huge, Nak was for her son and it sure paid off. Also so you can learn what he is really up against, because it is obvious that the PD isn't nearly as familiar with things as she should be.

I know it's hard, but for your sanity, try to look for the positives of all situations. My husband was lucky he liked to draw so even with just some paper and what is supposed to pass as a pen kept him busy drawing while he was in his cell much of the day.

Another bit of advice is to never allow the COs or prison staff to know you are emotionally hurting.

There were things that really pissed me off, but I would not have gotten emotional and let them know they were bothering me IN A MILLION YEARS----not even until the end of time, if necessary.

The last thing I wanted to ever do is give them the satisfaction that they had bothered me.

rewdiazepam

I have a full POA and a full medical POA. What would I do with them to help him?

I Wisconsin..I understand your post but everything about him is my job. My perspective is that I made a vow and I'm gonna always do and fight when it comes to him. His problems are my problems. I do think his anti depressant isnt effective and I will be dropping off med records from the VA in hopes they amp up his meds and get him better meds. He also has Parkinsons and has gotten no meds for that.

Hubby was in one prison where the water is brown. Visitors are told not to drink it, but that is all the inmate have. There were problems with rats, and broken windows that have never been repaired, without any heat or A/C (in 100+ weather). Inmates don't get additional blankets to help with the cold.

Another prison refused to give hubby his fish kit (personal care products) and refused to give him his possessions he brought with him from the prior prison that had personal care products in it. I finally had to contact the Obudsman to file a complaint. I was also notified of a lawyer in our state that works for inmates who's rights are being violated.

We have experienced the inhumane ways our loved ones are being treated, Psalm. We understand why you are outraged and want it to stop.

I made the same vow, but if your actions cause him hardship, how is that helping him? He has to be on board with what you are doing from the outside otherwise you could be doing him personally more harm than good.

I feel the same way about my husband, but I also don't want to be the cause of the problems he had while in prison. I didn't have to live there for 4 years, he did. Just like now, you are not sitting in that cell 24/7, he is, I know you wouldn't want to contribute to the way he is treated there. Not only that, you are only hearing what is happening from him over a recorded phone line. For all you know they could be torturing him at night and he can't say anything.

This is why I keep saying proceed with caution, know what battles you are getting in to and make sure he is on board with it, cause HE will be the one living with the decisions and actions you make and take.

I looked at my roll as the person that made sure that he had a home to come home to, a support system that wouldn't fail him, and some of the creature comforts that he just didn't get on the inside.

Right now you are in defense mode, which is pretty powerful for the female gender when it comes to someone we love. We as females tend to get very invested in the things we are fighting for, sometimes losing sight of the big picture of how things are working for all that are affected.

What I did when I was in defense mode was study, I learned all the laws that surrounded the statutes he was being convicted under. I started to educate myself on the defenses that were used in these situations, so that I could help the attorney help my man. Since you are using the PD, then you can do the same with her. The more you know the more you can help him in the long run. The things happening right now in holding and before the conviction are not nearly as important as his defense legally. Yeah he can't talk to his attorney currently, just gives you that much more time to learn the laws and precedent that surround the set of statutes he is being accused of.