How can they do that if you r not on the list??

Most laws and regulations regarding sex offenders are based on the fact that the person is listed and required to register as an offender on the sex offender registry. But there are some regulations that are based on the conviction and not the fact that the person must register.

For example, most laws regarding sex offenders are worded something like this: "Anyone who is required under (list state statute here) to register as a sex offender must ............................."

But some laws regarding sex offenders are worded something like this: "Anyone who has ever been convicted of a sex offense, (list statute here) must....................."

In other words, the law is based on conviction rather than the fact that the person is listed on the registry.

I spoke with an attorney I have known for a long time about this. He says if it is based on conviction there is a much better chance that the courts will throw the law out since it singles out a certain class of people.

I hope this is not a future trend in creating laws for sex offenders. If it is, then it does not really matter if a persons who has been convicted of a sex crime is on the registry. The law would apply just because he has a conviction of a sex offense. Getting removed from the registry would be a moot point.

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Yeah because that is imposing a sentence on someone that has completed the sentence. That is so bogus!!

Yes, what Rew said.

I spoke with an advocate group here in IL and they said the State Police will continue to enforce the laws against all convicted until the courts say otherwise or the wording is changed.

My 'congrats you're off the registry' letter even warns me I can't set foot on school or park property.

Add the 2013 ban on me celebrating holidays and 2014 ban on privately owned, publically accessed child areas.

I notice MI laws are just for those registered as are WI laws (mostly).

If I move to most states I'm back on the list. There are a few I can move to (I think).

I was just curious if anyone off the registry has moved and what states were chosen?

I'd love to go south- AZ or Nevada but I'd be back on the list. Ugh. In GA I'd be on the list until I could petition off.

don't come to FL what ever you do!!! I believe you guys but I still do not see how they can enforce that stuff on someone who does not have to register!! You are just Joe Citizen know - you can move and they will not know where you live etc. that is bogus they are using strong arm tactics to keep you under control - has anyone ever challenged it in court?

That's the problem.

No one has fully challenged these laws in IL. But they are clearly written 'Anyone convicted' and not 'Anyone Registered'. There is no doubt on what it means.

No one has challenged the court to interpret since 2002 and that was a ban on a sex offender (unregistered) in a school.

But as much as I lobby for this cause I don't want to be the one arrested so I can fight the fight. At least not until my kids are grown.

I just want to live in a state I can see my kids sport events and band concerts without written permission or fear.

They scan license plates at park districts lots to see who had their car parked there. They arrested a SO (non registered) for playing an adult league sport because he was on park property.

I can't use the public pools, rec center, attend the town 4th of July celebration, etc.

Would they enforce it on me? I'm not willing to risk it.

WOW!
That really sucks!!
I'm off the registry in PA and can just about what I please. Of course, PA does not have residency restrictions to begin with.

I thought about PA but if I read the laws correctly my crime falls into a 25 year registry and I am 18 years out.

It's not even residency restrictions that bother me. I don't want to live near schools and put myself at risk of being accused.

I just want freedom to go to parks and school events without written permission.

As it stands in IL if my son gets sick and I need to pick him up I need written permission from the superintendent of the district. And they can deny me for everything but parent:teacher conference including picking up a sick child or dropping off a forgotten notebook. So stupid.

Ivy,
Whatever your state says your time on the registry is will be the same in PA. If you are lifetime there, you will be lifetime here regardless of what the PA law says.
As for visiting schools, I'm not sure what the law is in PA. I never had to deal with it.

I'm off the registry in my state.

But PA laws say an equal offense - CP- is 25 years. So I'd move to PA and be back on the list.

Otherwise PA would be top of my list. :-)

Hmmm, someone here was just made a Tier 1, 15 years, with a CP, Federal charge. I would have been 25 years because they called it sexual performance of a minor in PA when the Feds called it possession of CP. If still on the registry when the AWA came into effect, I would have fought it.

Hmmm. I just re-read a more clear definition of PA and maybe my charge is tier 1.

Then I'd be off the registry in PA too.

I'll have to discuss with my husband where he'd rather go and seek out legal advice for that state.

Off to Google and see what other restrictions PA puts on SO's and if they apply to all or just those registered.

I think PA is good for visiting schools as long as you're not on paper, and even then if you ahve permission form the PO and the school it's ok

Thanks! I see no restrictions in PA on schools or parks ?!

I hope I'm right.

In IL I can attend school conferences with written permission- but that means declaring myself a SO to the school board and stigmatizing my children. And they can deny me all else.

I'll add PA to my 'good' list!

Glad I found you guys.

Now if only someone would pop in and tell me a warm state was good - TN? NC? I know FL is out.

Most warm states are Bible Belt. Those good 'ol boys are always looking for someone to look down on. They don't know that being a Christian means being forgiving.