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missyS
Eating Disorders and Brain Damage
One thing that people tend to overlook and be in denial over is brain damage caused by severe restriction. Often we dont notice it, we just think we cant concentrate because were tired, or irritable because were hungry, or high on a fast because were in control, or were depressed because were fat - but this is the beginnings of brain damage.
Early on in anorexia brain scans and tests show the brain shrinks, there are HOLES where the brain has been eaten away for energy, the brain has physical defects, IQ lowers, memory worsens and concentration falls. The brain is the first organ to be damaged by an eating disorder; the worse the restriction the worse the brain damage.
Restriction causes most of the ED symptoms - distorted body image, fear of weight gain, obsession with food etc. Some of these symptoms are present before the restriction, but its restriction that worsens them into a clinical ED, kinda like the restriction flicks a switch in the brain. Restriction of some type (intentional or accidental) - whether its a diet, stomach bug, depression-induced appetite loss, drug-induced-appetite loss, appetite loss from grief, can induce an ED.
The vast majority of people with EDs have clinical level depression, which is one part of the brain damage. Anorexics are 56 times more likely to commit suicide than the average person. Often depression occurs first and can play a part in the start of the ED, and the ED makes the depression worse. Someone with depression and an ED cannot fully recover from their depression unless they seek treatment for their ED too.
Many people with EDs get a feeling of euphoria when they are fasting or restricting, or bingeing and purgeing. This is a form of brain damage where the brain becomes addicted to endorphins which are released when you indulge in these behaviours. The endorphins have an affect similar to heroin causing pleasure, less pain and less stress.
On another level severe brain damage can be caused by electrolyte imbalances, fits and heart problems caused by the ED which cause the brain to be starved of oxygen.
The main part of any anorexia and bulimia treatment is refeeding - making sure the person has enough calories for their brain to recover to some extent.
When people start to slowly increase their calories to healthy levels and lose weight gradually, the first thing they tend to notice is feeling happier. They then start to have reduced feelings of depression and anxiety, and their ED symptoms lessen significantly. Theyre also in less physical danger (muscle loss, electrolyte imbalances etc) and are still losing weight and can become thin, happy, and able to see and enjoy it.
One thing that people tend to overlook and be in denial over is brain damage caused by severe restriction. Often we dont notice it, we just think we cant concentrate because were tired, or irritable because were hungry, or high on a fast because were in control, or were depressed because were fat - but this is the beginnings of brain damage.
Early on in anorexia brain scans and tests show the brain shrinks, there are HOLES where the brain has been eaten away for energy, the brain has physical defects, IQ lowers, memory worsens and concentration falls. The brain is the first organ to be damaged by an eating disorder; the worse the restriction the worse the brain damage.
Restriction causes most of the ED symptoms - distorted body image, fear of weight gain, obsession with food etc. Some of these symptoms are present before the restriction, but its restriction that worsens them into a clinical ED, kinda like the restriction flicks a switch in the brain. Restriction of some type (intentional or accidental) - whether its a diet, stomach bug, depression-induced appetite loss, drug-induced-appetite loss, appetite loss from grief, can induce an ED.
The vast majority of people with EDs have clinical level depression, which is one part of the brain damage. Anorexics are 56 times more likely to commit suicide than the average person. Often depression occurs first and can play a part in the start of the ED, and the ED makes the depression worse. Someone with depression and an ED cannot fully recover from their depression unless they seek treatment for their ED too.
Many people with EDs get a feeling of euphoria when they are fasting or restricting, or bingeing and purgeing. This is a form of brain damage where the brain becomes addicted to endorphins which are released when you indulge in these behaviours. The endorphins have an affect similar to heroin causing pleasure, less pain and less stress.
On another level severe brain damage can be caused by electrolyte imbalances, fits and heart problems caused by the ED which cause the brain to be starved of oxygen.
The main part of any anorexia and bulimia treatment is refeeding - making sure the person has enough calories for their brain to recover to some extent.
When people start to slowly increase their calories to healthy levels and lose weight gradually, the first thing they tend to notice is feeling happier. They then start to have reduced feelings of depression and anxiety, and their ED symptoms lessen significantly. Theyre also in less physical danger (muscle loss, electrolyte imbalances etc) and are still losing weight and can become thin, happy, and able to see and enjoy it.
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That was when I realized I had to choose between this illness and my ability to think clearly.
Still, at times I want to slide back into my restrictive behaviors because I know no other way to become as thin as I crave to be.
I just keep reminding myself of the terrible depression I had, lapses in time that I can't even remember where I hurt family and friends terribly by my actions, & the fact I was losing my smarts.
you quote " meh......i actually have a rather hgh IQ........my mom is a school psychologist so i have taken all of the fun standardized tests....so i got to take numerous IQ tests (iq tests online arent real and dont tell u ur real IQ).......so i can stand to lose a few points =P.
I hope that was a joke or I just dont get you, I guess my empty brain made me a qualified psyche nurse (and yes that did have flaws). However, I majored in Criminal Defence Law so I must be real thick.
You have a strong following on here but it is certainly not down to age or maturity. I wish you to be well, like the thousands who post to you. I hope you way works and you live to be my age and have family life experience (and no that does not mean necessary good all the time) but what do we oldies know? Apart from a happy 23 year old marriage, 2 children (which you may NEVER HAVE) and from someone like my husband who has supported me through tough times. Ignore my posts, severe osteoporosis (but that probably wont happen to you anyway) - if they make you so angry but perhaps just once in a while ask yourself once in a while why do they?)!
Then anything that person posts will not be made visible to you. I don't know if it works because I've never had to use it, but for ruth61, I thought this info would be helpful.
Missy and I don't always get along or agree on things, you can just ask her but I am not going to let you just state her post is utter B.S when it has truth in it. Sorry this is so long but I think that you are out of line to say things to her like she may never have kids etc...you don't know what she wants out of life and you don't know her and her struggle. You think as a psych nurse (if I read the correctly) you may have a little compassion towards the mentally ill...and we all know that EDs are mental illness.
I think Missy was just being herself... I think Ruth and others are annoyed that she doesnt try to get well harder, or take her disease more serious. But that is for MIssy to figure out. we can all be supportive to someone living with a disease...
hope that they change some day, or figure it out.... recovery is a hard road to go down...
o and thank u for accusing me of being immature.....me who is 22 , works over a full time job, attends college full time, has never allowed herself to get drunk, had perfect attendance in high school, ,has credit cards she uses and that she pays off right away, saves her money responsibly, gets all of her work done and in on time, has often been called the stick in the mud when those she was with wanted to do something stupid or illegal.........if that is immature....well then guess uve got me pegged
And I agree, you either laugh or you cry sometimes. Maybe joking is sometimes innappropriate, but it is a coping mechanism.
I think we all just want to help each other, and don't know how.
Alice