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lwiz
I know this post is really long and i've never posted before, but i'm desperate and don't know what else to do...
Recently I have begun to spiral downhill at an alarming weight. I was in IOP for a while but had to stop going because of school requirements in order to keep my insurance since it is through my university. I though I was doing ok--as far as maintaining--with where I was at. I didn't think I was getting worse. I for some reason honestly thought that tags in my clothes where lying and I was determined that my dietitian was exaggerating the weight loss. I thought it couldn't be more than a couple of pounds. But, at the same time I knew I was pulling my sick clothes out of storage and that even those weren't fitting me. Then I got a very brief separation from my distorted body image when I in a locker room at school changing from my business attire (we had mock interviews) back into my normal clothes. I gasped and almost started balling when I saw myself in the mirror because that wasn't me. I've never let myself great this sick before. I wasn't doing great with being behavior free, but I was doing ok. I knew that physically I had been feeling really bad, especially that day. I had been having palpitations and could barely keep my eyes open. For the past week I was even struggling to stay awake as I was standing and teaching my students. I was practically falling asleep behind the wheel even when it was only a 10 minute drive.
Awkwardly enough I was actually going from the mock interview directly to my dietitian's office for my weekly appointment. I fell asleep in her waiting room and practically fell asleep talking to her. I told her about everything that happened in the locker room and about all of the palpitations and sleepiness that was going on. She weighed me then told me that I had to go to the ER and that it wasn't a suggestion. I told her I didn't want to go and so she said I could go to the walk-in at my primary's office. I went there straight from her office and they did an EKG and labs (they had a note from my dietitian by the time I got there). Then they sent me to the ER with orders to be admitted for monitoring because of EKG changes. The docs at walk-in really listened and cared. They asked questions and encouraged me to talk to them about my fears of drinking fluids and eating a larger amount (more than what I've been doing). They did their best to understand and expressed that they really cared and that it is an extremely severe problem and something they know I can't just snap out of it.
Story short the ER overrode the admit orders gave me 1 bag of fluids and sent me home with directions to eat and hydrate. They also said to follow-up with primary if needed, but it wasn't necessary. They didn't even mention anything about following-up with my cardiologist.
After all of this/at that dietitian appointment I was told that I must go to a higher level of care. My team knew that I was really trying to hold off until after the semester since I was supposed to graduate from my undergrad in May and start grad school in June. She looked me in the eye and told me that at this rate there was no way I would make it to the end of the semester without a major medical crisis.
I started looking for treatment centers, calling to verify insurance and doing in-take assessments. I thought I found a place I was going to go to and admit to early this week. But, then I got a letter in the mail saying I was automatically enrolled in Medicare. Little did I know...that letter has basically been a death sentence...a slap in the face...making me feel that i'm just going to be another statistic. I quickly learned that where I thought I was going to admit would no longer happen because I have medicare. At first I thought it wouldn't matter because it would be a secondary insurance. That treatment center told me they couldn't take me if I had it at all because it causes too many problems, even if it's not the primary insurance.
I then learned that by law my Medicare was actually now my primary insurance and by law I am not allowed to unenroll in the Medicare. Because the Medicare is primary I now can only go to a treatment center that accepts Medicare as a primary insurance. I quickly learned that there are very few treatment centers that will accept patients with the insurance as a primary. So even though I have a primary insurance plan that will pay for 100% of treatment because I met my deductible, I can't access those benefits because I can't find a treatment center with an appropriate level of care that accepts Medicare. The ones I found either only accept the insurance on an outpatient level or the accept it, but wont accept me because of medical instability.
Over the past week I have gone from approaching medical instability to episodes of chest pain, constant muscle cramping (even the muscles in my jaw start to cramp), constant palpitations, blacking out, my hands/feet are dark purple, my lips are purple, I can't get warm, and I get short of breath walking across my apartment. Everything is crashing and burning. My dietitian told me today that my weight is dropping at an alarming rate that is extremely dangerous. She said I need to get to a treatment facility ASAP. She said i'm literally a ticking time-bomb and i'm in danger. She wanted me to go to the ER again today because i've been having chest pain in my left chest, short of breath, I feel like someone is squeezing the left side of my neck and i've been having severe muscle cramping all day. I had an IVIG infusion yesterday, so I think some of the symptoms are in relation to that, but I do know that medically i'm in danger.
I'm afraid I wont wake-up in the morning because my heart is going to stop in my sleep or i'm going to have a heart attack in my sleep. I'm terrified. So, on my way home from her office I decided I was going to call Denver ACUTE and see if I qualified for their program or if they knew of other centers I should contact. I called several times then finally got a hold of someone. I explained what was going on health wise and ACUTE care is definitely where I need to be, but it is the whole Medicare problem all over again. It is a little different there and I may possible be able to go depending on my private insurance. They are checking benefits and everything to see. I really hope that it can be worked out because if I can't go there I don't know what i'm going to do. My dietitian is worried i'm not going to make it to my appointment next week without something happening based off of how drastic my condition has changed since last week.
I'm terrified and scare because I don't want to become another statistic. It's not fair that I was automatically enrolled in a health insurance plan (Medicare) that I didn't even want. And because of it I now can't access my ED treatment benefits that are covered by my other insurance. All because treatment centers don't accept Medicare due to their lack of payment. I want to get help. Things are now to the point that I can't do it on my own in the outpatient setting. But, now I can't get the help even though I have the coverage. I don't see the point in going to the ER because half the time once they hear I have anorexia and restrict both food and fluid they just give a bag of fluid and send me home before all of the labs even come back. Last week when I went I was in and out in 2.5 hours.
Has anyone been through a similar issue or have any advice?
Recently I have begun to spiral downhill at an alarming weight. I was in IOP for a while but had to stop going because of school requirements in order to keep my insurance since it is through my university. I though I was doing ok--as far as maintaining--with where I was at. I didn't think I was getting worse. I for some reason honestly thought that tags in my clothes where lying and I was determined that my dietitian was exaggerating the weight loss. I thought it couldn't be more than a couple of pounds. But, at the same time I knew I was pulling my sick clothes out of storage and that even those weren't fitting me. Then I got a very brief separation from my distorted body image when I in a locker room at school changing from my business attire (we had mock interviews) back into my normal clothes. I gasped and almost started balling when I saw myself in the mirror because that wasn't me. I've never let myself great this sick before. I wasn't doing great with being behavior free, but I was doing ok. I knew that physically I had been feeling really bad, especially that day. I had been having palpitations and could barely keep my eyes open. For the past week I was even struggling to stay awake as I was standing and teaching my students. I was practically falling asleep behind the wheel even when it was only a 10 minute drive.
Awkwardly enough I was actually going from the mock interview directly to my dietitian's office for my weekly appointment. I fell asleep in her waiting room and practically fell asleep talking to her. I told her about everything that happened in the locker room and about all of the palpitations and sleepiness that was going on. She weighed me then told me that I had to go to the ER and that it wasn't a suggestion. I told her I didn't want to go and so she said I could go to the walk-in at my primary's office. I went there straight from her office and they did an EKG and labs (they had a note from my dietitian by the time I got there). Then they sent me to the ER with orders to be admitted for monitoring because of EKG changes. The docs at walk-in really listened and cared. They asked questions and encouraged me to talk to them about my fears of drinking fluids and eating a larger amount (more than what I've been doing). They did their best to understand and expressed that they really cared and that it is an extremely severe problem and something they know I can't just snap out of it.
Story short the ER overrode the admit orders gave me 1 bag of fluids and sent me home with directions to eat and hydrate. They also said to follow-up with primary if needed, but it wasn't necessary. They didn't even mention anything about following-up with my cardiologist.
After all of this/at that dietitian appointment I was told that I must go to a higher level of care. My team knew that I was really trying to hold off until after the semester since I was supposed to graduate from my undergrad in May and start grad school in June. She looked me in the eye and told me that at this rate there was no way I would make it to the end of the semester without a major medical crisis.
I started looking for treatment centers, calling to verify insurance and doing in-take assessments. I thought I found a place I was going to go to and admit to early this week. But, then I got a letter in the mail saying I was automatically enrolled in Medicare. Little did I know...that letter has basically been a death sentence...a slap in the face...making me feel that i'm just going to be another statistic. I quickly learned that where I thought I was going to admit would no longer happen because I have medicare. At first I thought it wouldn't matter because it would be a secondary insurance. That treatment center told me they couldn't take me if I had it at all because it causes too many problems, even if it's not the primary insurance.
I then learned that by law my Medicare was actually now my primary insurance and by law I am not allowed to unenroll in the Medicare. Because the Medicare is primary I now can only go to a treatment center that accepts Medicare as a primary insurance. I quickly learned that there are very few treatment centers that will accept patients with the insurance as a primary. So even though I have a primary insurance plan that will pay for 100% of treatment because I met my deductible, I can't access those benefits because I can't find a treatment center with an appropriate level of care that accepts Medicare. The ones I found either only accept the insurance on an outpatient level or the accept it, but wont accept me because of medical instability.
Over the past week I have gone from approaching medical instability to episodes of chest pain, constant muscle cramping (even the muscles in my jaw start to cramp), constant palpitations, blacking out, my hands/feet are dark purple, my lips are purple, I can't get warm, and I get short of breath walking across my apartment. Everything is crashing and burning. My dietitian told me today that my weight is dropping at an alarming rate that is extremely dangerous. She said I need to get to a treatment facility ASAP. She said i'm literally a ticking time-bomb and i'm in danger. She wanted me to go to the ER again today because i've been having chest pain in my left chest, short of breath, I feel like someone is squeezing the left side of my neck and i've been having severe muscle cramping all day. I had an IVIG infusion yesterday, so I think some of the symptoms are in relation to that, but I do know that medically i'm in danger.
I'm afraid I wont wake-up in the morning because my heart is going to stop in my sleep or i'm going to have a heart attack in my sleep. I'm terrified. So, on my way home from her office I decided I was going to call Denver ACUTE and see if I qualified for their program or if they knew of other centers I should contact. I called several times then finally got a hold of someone. I explained what was going on health wise and ACUTE care is definitely where I need to be, but it is the whole Medicare problem all over again. It is a little different there and I may possible be able to go depending on my private insurance. They are checking benefits and everything to see. I really hope that it can be worked out because if I can't go there I don't know what i'm going to do. My dietitian is worried i'm not going to make it to my appointment next week without something happening based off of how drastic my condition has changed since last week.
I'm terrified and scare because I don't want to become another statistic. It's not fair that I was automatically enrolled in a health insurance plan (Medicare) that I didn't even want. And because of it I now can't access my ED treatment benefits that are covered by my other insurance. All because treatment centers don't accept Medicare due to their lack of payment. I want to get help. Things are now to the point that I can't do it on my own in the outpatient setting. But, now I can't get the help even though I have the coverage. I don't see the point in going to the ER because half the time once they hear I have anorexia and restrict both food and fluid they just give a bag of fluid and send me home before all of the labs even come back. Last week when I went I was in and out in 2.5 hours.
Has anyone been through a similar issue or have any advice?
http://www.alexianbrothershealth.org/abbhh
i've gone to this hospital before for ED as well as other issues and it's great....they have a unit that specializes in ED.....i don't where you live, but if you can get to this hospital and get an assessment done ASAP....i have no doubt that they'll admit you and help you....it is extremely helpful there and they help you with aftercare plans as well.....please keep us updated and please keep yourself safe!!!
I heard back from ACUTE...and was turned away again. When they called they told me that I do indeed need their services and I really would benefit from their program, but because of their contract with the hospital they cannot accept me as a patient because of the Medicare.
In all honesty I seriously don't know what else to do. I cannot handle doing another intake, being told that they can get through the loophole with insurance, then being turned away. I have seriously lost count of how many treatment center I have now contacted. I literally contacted every single center on eating disorder hope that showed they have IP/RES or ACUTE levels of care. I have probably contacted over 50 places at this point just to see if my insurance would even be a possibility. I have now done a total of 6 full in-take assessments that all appeared to be promising.
At this point I think it may be time for me to give-up on finding a treatment center and to start trying to come-up with my own plan/treatment program. Maybe all of these centers turning me away is a some sort of sign that I just need to try and do this on my own.
If you really cant get treatment please bounce about ideas with us here at DS. Im glad that you do have the will to try and youre not going to give up:)
Kim x
So, I've decided that I'm done calling centers and being turned away. Recently...well over the past 6 months, but I've been ignoring them...I have been receiving a program guide for something called Turning Point (http://turningpointkc.org/). My physicians at a local hospital here in KC enrolled me in the program. The program is for those with chronic physical illness. I qualified because of my primary immune deficiency, arthritis and heart problems. Something the other day called me to finally look through the program guide. When I was flipping through I noticed that there were a lot of classes & groups similar to ones offered in IP/RES/PHP/IOP treatment centers. I went ahead to contact them to learn more. I went to the facility to tour and meet with one of the RNs that runs the program. Everyone that works there leading the groups, classes, art classes, etc. is either a physician, registered nurse, registered dietitian, social worker or licensed therapist.
My other idea is to start my own recovery support group here in town that would be a self-guided skills (with some process) group using different books recommended by eating disorder professionals.
Does anyone else have any ideas?
I can only imagine how frustrated and angry you must feel. I feel angry just reading all that you have gone through. I do not understand insurance, but it is incredibly frustrating to me that you have been denied treatment when you so desperately need it.
As angry as I feel at the situation you've been placed in, I am amazed at how determined you are. That is amazing, to have that determination and drive in the face of all you are dealing with.
I am not sure if you have seen this, but I found this guide that goes state by state and details each eating disorder program and whether or not they take Medicare. Here is the link:
http://www.allianceforeatingdisorders.com/portal/documents/555221/1aec9bf1-cf87-4cc1-9345-c5a688af963f
I know you are located in KS, but I looked through the list and picked out all the programs that offer inpatient and accept Medicare:
CA Center for Anorexia and Bulimia at Alta Bates Summit Medical Center
CA UCLA ED Treatment
CA Del Amo Behavioral Health Systems
GA - womens services/Ridgeview institute
IL alexian brothers
IL-l linden oaks
LA river oaks
Iowa university hospital
MD Johns Hopkins Eating Disorder Hospital
MD Sheppard Pratt
MA Klarman
MA Walden Behavioral Care, LLC
MI ED treatment at Forest View
MN Center for the Treatment of Eating Disorders
MN Park Nicollet Melrose Center
MN Emily program (Heard good things about this)
NJ Princeton
NY Four winds Hospital and Four Winds Saratoga
NY Columbia Center for Eating Disorders This one says Free treatment for those who participate in research this might be worth looking into
NY Presbyterian Hospital
NC University of NC Center of Excellence for Eating Disorders
ND Sanford Health
OH Lindner Center of Hope
OH River Center Clinic
OK- Brookhaven Hospital
PA Brandywine Hospital
PA Penn State Hershey Eating Disorder Program
PA Belmont
WI Rogers Memorial Hospital
WI Aurora Psychiatric Hospital
I do not know how good these programs are (some are probably better than others), but please let me know if you'd like me to help you look into any of them further. I would be more than happy to do that. I also wonder if your dietitian might help you call some of these places. I can only imagine how exhausted you must feel from all of this. Again, let me know if there is anything I can do to help you in any way.
Have you started at the Turning Point yet? I think that sounds like a great alternative, as well as starting your own support group. My only concern is that it sounds like you really might need a higher level of care at this point. I know you are afraid, and I am afraid for you. I know, though, that with the right help and treatment, you can overcome this. You are so strong and deserving of the best care possible.
Keep going, never give up. I believe in you.