Personally, I think it is more "manly" to ask for help then to put up a front..big hugs for you!

Define manly.Doing what is human or acting like you think other cavemen think you should.Sorry that came out a bit wrong.What I mean is its ok to be depressed,ok to cry,ok to ask for help.Its less manly to be too scared to show you have emotions and are human like the rest of us.Take care.x

Don't sell "all I want to be is happy" short. Not enough people have that as a goal!

Besides, anybody who loves soccer has a built in link to happy! Do you play, watch, coach, ??

I agree with Lost and NBN. I think it is much more courageous for a man to be in touch with his emotions versus disconnected. I hope you find the happiness you're looking for and deserve. ((hugz)) Chelle

agreed with above,

more unmanly to hide and not admit it

((hugs))

i play, not at the moment though i broke my ankle ive been out for 4 months and still got another couple of months to go, ive asked for help loads of times had counselling phsycotheropy, read loads of self help books listened to hypnotheropy even jumped 15000 out of and areoplane (how i broke my ankle) and i still feel like shit!)

Actually, it's not "macho" to be vulnerable. But this is fine as being "macho" generally equates to being dumb. A real man is honest about what he is, and is not afraid to seek help when he needs it. It is far easier to hide feelings under bluster and by causing damage than it is let yourself feel them.

Giving up is neither macho nor manly nor womanly. It's just something to avoid.

It takes strength to ask for help. Men have been brainwashed into rigid gender roles that do more harm than good. Real men are secure enough to be their authentic self and to see through those meaningless rules that keep them from being themselves.

It takes courage to cry, to be vulnerable, to be tender, to express feelings other than anger. Don't ever let anyone make you feel ashamed of who you are.

Unmanly? Men arent robots.... your people too!

I probably need to see my dr again cause this depression shit is a pain in the ass, i dont wanna end it all but my brain tells me different from time to time, like most ppl i cant control my thoughts unfortunatly.

I think going to see the dr is a great idea hun. Most of us can't control our thoughts at times (at least I know I have my moments there) ((hugs))