Wish they would find a cure for depression I wouldnt wish this on my worst enemy.

The cure is learning how to manage depression and keep it in check. And it's easier than you might think but it does require a little proactive and consistent effort on your part. The good news is that YOU CAN get grounded again and live a normal life. People with all kinds of symptoms are winning the battle with depression every day. So can you.

I don't think it is either cowardly or brave. I think it is someone hurting so much they think they have no other options. However, there are other options. Like you say, you are strong, you can beat this. You have helped others through this, just follow your own advice. You will feel better, it just may take some time.

Have you been to see the doctor? Maybe they can help you.

Its not easier then I might think been trying countless ways for years.

I first went to the Doctor 8 years ago Ive had many different pills over the years Ive seen different counsillors and theropists in different areas done Cbt talked endessly about the past, read many books done hypnotherapy pushed my self exercised set goals talked to my family tried being more assertive joined this website spoke to my old boss told ex girl friends when I was with them. Gone on different holidays ect the list goes on and on and I still feel bad thats the sort of fight I have given, I guess some people are just born in to pain.

Depression is the dog that needs to be trained. Once we find the courage answer strength to seek out our training we came tame it and put it in the kennel when he starts coming back out like he will so o much over the years.
Me like you i have tried everything that is going to combat.depression anxiety and PTSD to name a few but again like u none worked for e i live in hope that day i will find that treatment that will bring the years"sun" into my life and get rid of.this cloud but till that day i have a daily no sorry a hourly battle with thoughts of suicide how where so who'll find me.
Peopl judge us so easily because they can't see it. It the old tale if u can't see it its nor real well bloody come and live with me for a week and have ever thought i have and see.if its real.
It takes a special person to have depression and unless you have it you don't know how special you have to be.

Sorry i kinda started ranting there about nothin lol don't even think.it made any sense sorry

I think if I was teetering on the brink as you seem to be, seeing no hope for relief and looking at a lifetime of suffering, I would go to the nearest mental health crisis center and get immediate professional help. Give yourself some credit for getting through every day that you suffer. It's an incredible achievement that many people can't measure up to. So far you have carried this cross and tried everything you can think of to manage it. I don't think you have any obligation at this point to continue carrying it alone. Give yourself the credit you deserve for bearing up and go get the help you need. Your local crisis center is there for you and they will know how to help.

Hey Richie,
I have been right where you are buddy. I have the T-shirt and the tread marks to prove it. You know what I did and still do. I write poetry. Sounds pretty lame eh? When I first started all of my poems were dark and reflected my state of mind at the time. People say write in a journal. Poetry is better, it makes you really think, After a while I went back and read through some of my scribbles and I found that while they were still not about flowers and sunshine they were and are taking on a more positive leaning as I learned to think my way out of the darkness.
Every person makes a positive contribution to the world we live in, even if you do not recognize it outright. You have helped a lot of people on here, I have read their posts. Your helping me right now believe it or not. Your post drew me here and now I have found kindred spirits within this group who feel the way I do on many occasions. Thank You from the bottom of my heart. I truly mean that.
Keep the faith my brother, one day, one hour, one minute at a time we can help each other, we are human, we are linked, that's what we do, we help each other. I have heard that no man is an Island. Well if you feel like an Island just look up, I will be one of the coconuts hanging in the tree :) probably making stupid noises but it breaks up the monotony.
Anyone who judges you really needs to look in a mirror.
Sending smiles and sunbeams your way my friend !
Roscoe-

Yes I can relate to what you're saying about it being a selfish state of mind. I'm really battling it right now too. And I am really mad at myself for not being able to help my son with his homework right now. In fact I can barely think clearly enough to type this post. I am so down on myself right now. Sorry this isn't helping YOUR situation and sorry to make this about me instead of you. Right now I'm just trying to hole on to what little sanity I still have. Hope you feel better soon.

"The Four Agreements"

By don Miguel Ruiz.

Richie, I read this amazing 70 page book, and never had something move so quickly from head to heart. Not all wisdom hits everyone the same way, but if you are at sixes and sevens, you COULD give it a look!

Ok cheers Bob Ill look out for that book.

Really not funny.

Richierich -
In reading your post, the key words I'd hi-lite are 'right now'..these thoughts probably will diminish in time & you have to patiently give yourself time..it is like pulling a muscle ('charlie-horse'), that pain you feel will eventually subside and you will hopefully return to 'normal'..

In direct response to your question - there is no definitive answer as the question is very subjective..Killing oneself is no easy task; but neither is living..My opinion is that it is very courageous to overcome ones deep despair and plow thru their mental anguish (whether situational or chronic) taking on each obstacle one at a time..life is a marathon - the victor isn't the swiftest; it's the one who endures to the end..

As a person that is teetering on the verge of suicide, it takes pure guts to kill yourself and guts to live. I have a friend that jumped 120 feet to his death and I never knew he was sick and there were barely any clues beforehand and I never thought he was a coward for doing that....most people would shit their pants looking over an edge that high. If you are dealing with problems with your emotions that stuff will work itself out if you work with it. Concern over being brave or coward won't matter when you aren't here...trust me. Like I had said before, the human body has a built in mechanism to avoid injury. Here is the most important part: who cares what people think? Pay attention to the people that care, the rest...fuck em. This is hard to live by I agree but it is true and it makes sense. The only reason I have written on your post is I think of suicide 100 times a day and I don't worry about whether it is brave or not...missing out on life is more of a concern.

As a person that is teetering on the verge of suicide, it takes pure guts to kill yourself and guts to live. I have a friend that jumped 120 feet to his death and I never knew he was sick and there were barely any clues beforehand and I never thought he was a coward for doing that....most people would shit their pants looking over an edge that high. If you are dealing with problems with your emotions that stuff will work itself out if you work with it. Concern over being brave or coward won't matter when you aren't here...trust me. Like I had said before, the human body has a built in mechanism to avoid injury. Here is the most important part: who cares what people think? Pay attention to the people that care, the rest...fuck em. This is hard to live by I agree but it is true and it makes sense. The only reason I have written on your post is I think of suicide 100 times a day and I don't worry about whether it is brave or not...missing out on life is more of a concern.