I don't know if its common......but I have it as well...........I blame it on the meds..............but sometimes, I cam sleep without ever waking up, even to pee........and still on the same meds..........so who really knows (at least in my case)

I also have CHF (among other things).....and I try to force myself (someday's) NOT to go back to bed so maybe I can sleep at night.........like ALL night.......sometimes it works......sometimes it doesn't :(

Sleep is soooooooooo important they say........but getting it can be pretty hard:(:(

Hoping you get some sleep tonight..............I am about to make my first trip to bed in a few minutes............hopefully I won't be back here in an hour.............LOL

I'm always very tired, too. Doc said she wasn't worried that it was a symptom of a "serious" medical problem because I looked so good! And that is my internist who I've been seeing for over 20 years... With all the high-tech tools at her disposal, she makes a diagnosis based on my appearance?! I feel like Rodney Dangerfield, for heaven's sake.

My new pulmo wasn't at all worried, either; because I had had polio in 1951 as a toddler, so that may be partly to blame, he said. No matter to whom you express your feelings of fatigue (doc, family, or friend), they seem to totally dismiss that as a symptom and major burden. Yeah, there's that Rodney feeling again--marginalized and dissed.

So...I think we in this COPD boat all have problems getting comfy enough to fall asleep, then sleep for long periods for restorative rest. I actually feel SICK when I don't get enough sleep in a 24-hour period. Most days, I get up to let the dog out and feed her breakfast, then turn around and nap on the couch to get close to 8 hours sleep. This is regarded as shamful laziness by my bullying neighbors!

For us gals, menopause may have set us off on a dangerous path of insomnia and broken sleep patterns--I think I have been tired ever since then, and unable to establish normal sleep where I don't awaken every couple of hours, after battling to fall asleep in the first place.

Wish I knew what to do about it--if our docs don't take it seriously, maybe it's NOT detrimental to our health, just very akin to torture. And no one gives a rodent's rectum about the travails of middle-aged females in America.....right, Rodney?

Hey, thanks for the opportunity to vent, people. At least I tried to put a bit of humor in it... I hope all my fellow COPD travelers are snug in bed, comfy, warm and safe tonight--and sound asleep, too.

I have sometimes sleep for two days straight. Get up just to feed the animals and pee I don't even stop to drink and back in bed. It's like if you don't go lay back down you will pass out..

This can drive you crazy no energy to do anything. Here it is midnight and still up will go back to bed for a few hours then up again. I wish we could find out what to do to help this. I blame it on the copd.
God bless

Ok, so i'm not alone! Maybe we should do a telephone line, like in Bye Bye Birdie, when all the girls call each other about Conrad Birdie!!!

Did you notice, it's all women so far about the fatigue?? And i think we are all around the same age too, maybe it is the after effects of menopause!

But, i wake up and after a cup of java at 4am , i actually feel pretty damn rested. But around 6am i start getting tired again, to go back to sleep.

I don't know if i'm getting worse, i would like to feel that i'm breathing better, as my O2 sat numbers are getting better, and im on the bi pap machine. I just can't seem to STAY asleep. But when i do sleep, i'm out like a light!

Boo

Oh, I do have Hypothyroidism, but i'm on meds for it, but one of the symptoms of that is fatigue. My dr will probably do my blood work again, to make sure my levels are ok.

Boo

Boo, Good morning, Your not alone, I have trouble sleeping and while I don't minic your sleeping habits, mine are sometimes similar. Also, your health issues are different and I am sure they impact you in such a way as to promote your tiredness, especially the CHF. Again those of us with COPD or Emphysema have different health issues that promote tiredness and poor sleeping habits. So collectives we share a common problem but for different reasons. I know this is a round about answer, but I hope it helps. take care, Bill

thanks bill and others~ Appreciate your input, Have a great day! i'm going back to sleep for 3 hours, lol!

Boo

Why do people feel tired and have a hard time sleeping with COPD? Are your lungs uncomfortable?

Hi ! i had a very hard time getting to sleep. they gave me 02 and now sleeping a lot better.I have a small tv in my room and watch that when I get into bed after about an hour iam sound asleep.

Not only the ladies lol...i retire around 11pm n am awake at 3am...i used to blame them roosters but im used to their noisy habit but still wake up...by 9am im ready to nap again n feel very can't be bothered till lunch time, after which i feel much more energetic...

Ok so it's not just a "woman" thing. Yeah, i'm on O2 also, and a bi pap machine. IT's still difficult to sleep, even if i lay there with the light off, bi pap mask on, and do my nice , slow deep breaths, and try to think of nice, fluffly clouds or sheep! LOL!

I'm not on any new meds since all this happened. Except for symbicort...I'm sure we'll review my meds, Pulm, and Cardiac Dr's, once I have the tests i need done.

Boo
Going to try to go to sleep. IT's 11:44pm, we'll see how long i sleep!

Wishes for all of you to have a nice, peaceful sleep....with beautiful angels looking over ALL OF YOU!!

xoxox

Well it's 4am and I am still playing on the computer. No sleep tonight.
God bless

Well, you're not totally alone! I went to bed at 12:30am and was up at 3:30am, too bad we weren't both on here, we could have chatted on here!

I guess i sleep in 3 shifts...12am or 1am, for 3 or 4 hours, then 7am until 10 am, and then a nap from 2 until 5pm. Thank goodness Mom isn't here, but being alone, easy to take an afternoon nap.

Question, besides inhalers,s are there any meds that Dr's have put any of you on, that makes you feel any better? I know that probably most of you on O2, said "I don't wanna be on oxygen, the rest of my life", and i feel that way right now, but i have to face the fact, that they caught this, and i very well may have to live with oxygen for a long time . That way if i do go off it, i'll be surprised.

Right now, I'm on Symbicort, (twice a day 160/4.5, )and Albuterol ....as needed.

Ok, any takers on commenting about these questions? ALso, what do they do during Pulmonary Rehab? or Respiratory Rehab?

Boo

I guess I've really got myself on a different schedule! I always was a night person, and since going on disability, I guess I can really do the night thing up big! I often don't go to bed til around 4 or 5AM and I don't get up then til 1 or 2PM! I can sleep unless it is too humid and my head is plugged up (lots of allergies) and if that's the case, I feel like I'm smothered when I start to fall off to sleep! That wakes me up quick and I hate that feeling! Normally, I sleep pretty good, but deep (creases on my arms, etc when I get up), and I do wake up every few hours or so to use br. I also have a hx of CABG- 2 vessel by-pass and CHF. Debbie.

Hello Boo,
Sorry about you not getting much sleep. It could be meds, copd, or quitting smoking, or all combined!! We all go thru that, I guess it is a copd thing.
I go to bed early but do not go to sleep until maybe an hour or so later, then wake up about 2-3 am to go to the bathroom, then back to sleep.
I use to take ambien, but was becoming to dependent on them, so I stopped. They worked great, I would get drowsey, go to sleep, but still wake up at 2-3 for the bathroom!!
But I noticed when I did not take one, I was wide awake all night!!! So I quit them. Now I read until my eyes are droopy, then go to sleep just fine.
If a person is not sleepy, they are not going to go to sleep regardless, and some experts have said tht if you are not dozing off within 30 minutes, you should get out of bed and read a boreing book.
I just read whatever I can find!!!
Pulmonary rehab is exercises to build your auxilliary muscles and leg muscles up . As your lung unction goes, the diaphragm, that helps your lungs to move, gets lax, and you need to use your auxillary muscles in order to breath, and keep your lungs moving best they can.
Your legs have the largest muscles, thus will use more oxygen, so you need to keep them built up in order to get from point a to point b, or you will not be able to walk. Unused muscles require more oxygen than toned muscles, and all the oxygen you are useing is going to your lungs to keep you alive, if you have bad muscle tone, and divert the oxygen, you are sob and will get worse.
It also teaches you proper breathing. Remember the lazzy diaphram? Well you should be breathing from that, like this. Take a deep breath, but tighten your stomach muscles, then when you exhale, purse your lips like you are going to kiss smeone on the cheek and slowly exhale.
THIS BRINGS GOOD AIR IN AND LETS BAD AIR OUT We retain co2 , so we need to get it out . Google "Purse lip Brething" and it will explain it better.
Speaking of rehab, I have to go, so have a good weekend
Brenda