Chronic Pain Support Group
Physicians and professionalsdefine pain as chronic if it lasts longer than three to six months and is persistent. It's distinct from acute pain that is a direct result of injury or trauma. This support group is dedicated to those suffering from chronic pain. Discuss treatments that have worked for you, find advice for your specific experience, and find support. You're not...
So, since I've had an increase in pain over the last couple of months (sacroiliac joint, myofascial, etc.), I decided to try some painkillers. Over the past month I've tried Tramadol, Lortab, and Percocet....no reaction. Well, actually, the first time I tried a percocet, it did seem to help a bit, but by the second time I took it...absolutely nothing. I don't use street drugs, have one or two glasses of wine a week, and am very small, so I was actually expecting these drugs to be very powerful and was scared to take them at first. Anyone else like this? What do I do? Try dilaudid? The only thing that works a little is a glass of wine!
DO you have ER (extended release) or IR (immediate release)?
Lovecj: I am so sorry to hear that about your stomach. I noticed that you live in CA, where medical marijuana is legal. Have you tried that? I'm just now starting to look into that, as I've heard it helps people who are in severe pain. I live in NV, where it is also legal. I'm all for whatever works--anything is better than pain.
I talked to a doctor online about this and she suggested the Fentanyl patch along with methadone -- she said this was for hard-to-treat patients. Fentanyl is stronger than morphine. This works for me and after 26 years of pain, I'm FINALLY getting some relief!! Perhaps this combo would work for you too -- you might ask your doc about it. Just tell him you know someone who's on this, and could you try it. I'm on .75mcg patch, along with just 10mg of Methadone -- and this works great. There are some days where I feel crummy -- but most of the time I do pretty well.
Just thought I'd mention it to you. Sounds like you might be hard to treat too. Best of luck & God bless. Hugs, Lee
I should also mention that I have been having a weird burning tingling feeling all over my body that has been progressively getting more intense--most likely fibro or something related. I'll probably have to also try Cymbalta or gabapentin, too.
Take Care,
I took the one dose, got diplopia/double vision, went to sleep for 12 hours and never took another one.
Now my doctor died and I have been through Hell trying to find a doc. Thanks to a friend I found someone and he is going to switch me to long-acting in higher doses and only 3 instant release a day. So basically I will have the same amount of the drug in my system, just coming in different release times. He says if this change doesn't work there are other things to try.
My point is, I reacted differently to the release of the morphine than, say, most people do. And most people have to increase doses of opiods (like morphine) to continue to get relief, or so say 3 different pain docs. Still, in 14 years I haven't changed my dose b/c it works! A NP at a clinic I saw told me that I HAD to be feeling more pain than I was saying. I mean, she was certain that I couldn't continue to deal with the pain w/o increasing the dose. But I did, I have and will.
I've lived an entire lifetime in 14 years and I still am able to be a wife, mother, writer, traveler, and the person in my family everyone goes to with problems. Maybe it's bc I haven't felt any of the side effects since the 1st months I was on it. But I DO know that it is odd and therefore, it seems impossible for medical professionals to believe. I could've LIED but I don't want to have to take any more pills that necessary.
Okay, after that book, LOL, all I can say is, you KNOW what works for you so when you find out what it is, hopefully your doc will work with you. I wouldn't do wine unless there's no pills to be taken, but if wine alone helps, do mention it to your doctor. It'd be a lot easier and cheaper than pills!
Good Luck!
With proper titration, there really is no "lethal" dose for an opiate tolerant patient. I know of one person that is a patient in the same pain clinic that I use that takes almost 900mg a day of opiates. He has inoperable brain cancer. It takes the pain away, but you would never know he was terminal. Now in a non tolerant individual, 120-250mg of an opiate would be lethal.
its called tolerance...
opioids generally dont have a "ceiling dose" so its not true when Dr.s tell their patients that if they "use up all the meds now... they cant control pain later on in their life." * so many people worry about that and its a lie* they might as well say they dont feel comfortable RXing opioid medications.
If using a med with NO Tylenol ( SO much harsher on a body) it can be titrated up according to the needs of the patient.
except for a few weeks when I started on Vicodin...then onto MScontin15, with vicodin for breakthrough pain. Nothing. Then MSContin
30 which resulted in me passing out after one tablet. followed by Percocet 7.5 and now Norco. I'm at the end of my rope... I'm afraid to bring up methadone or oxycontin... my doc doesnt seem keen on prescribing either of those... After all is said and done, a glass of wine at
night kills the pain! Your friend,Tooth2k