I think the world has gone to hell in a hand basket.

I use to believe you could retire from a company with a gold watch, you could get married and live happily-ever-after and that social security would take care of me in my old age.

Boy, was I stoopidddd!!!!

I'm liking the " I will be myself" part of that post!

Yes...the truth is:

There is no company loyality towards its employees but they want loyality out of us.

Social Security probably won't be around when most of us retire

It is almost the Norm to have affairs

It is okay to lie.

It is okay to think of yourself as the most important thing in the world and how dare someone not think of you in the same way.

It is okay to not be courteous.

^ 5 Heave!

I think that a number of threads on here today are connected to what youre addressing.

AND what burns my butt is when people say - OH but you have to FORGIVE them when they do these things.

Forgiveness to me means do what ever the hell you want and you get a Get out of jail Free card.

I have to FORGIVE Wall Street and the Bernie Madoff types
I have to FORGIVE the terrorists
I have to FORGIVE the John Edwards/Tiger Woods types
I have to FORGIVE the child molesters
I have to FORGIVE the gang bangers
I have to FORGIVE those on death row
I have to FORGIVE the drunk drivers

Because if I don't, I'm a horrible person with no soul.

*shakes head and flips finger at world*

ALERT: trigger... and a motherfucker at that


I wish I could share your optimism Heave but unfortunately I don't.

For 40 years I lived by my retarded principles, and they have caused me nothing but pain, loneliness and heartbreak. I'm about ready to deep six them. I missed more one-night-stand opportunities because of them, something it would seem ALL of my male friends have endulged in.

In 1999 when I was a roid-raged, aggressive dickhead of an alpha male, I had more advances from women than I ever had in my life. Funny when they found out how I REALLY am on the inside, they gave me my walking papers. Someone care to explain THAT? What the fuck, it's how I met my ex wife. That 8 year LIE. She cheated on me with an alpha male type. She'll NEVER leave him as long as he remains that way.
I'm fully expecting to have my head handed to me on this one and I welcome it.
Mr. Hyde

I agree with Moon the world is in the hand basket. Deep Deep in the trenchs of Hell. Morals, Shit those were lost yeas ago. Men as well as Women have forgotten what committment is and cannot stick to one person. I don't understand.

Even with Shit like Aids out there people don't care. What is going to change them? NOTHING!

I have made a pact with my girls. I will be single. I will dedicate my life to them. I do not need another man. THEY will be what I live for.
I have wasted the best years of my life trying to please a man that cannot appreciate all of my hard work.

Don't get me wrong. I also know that there are some really GREAT men out there. I just don't know where to look for you. I can't waste another minute trying to find you. I need to help my girls.

I know That GOOD men exist. I do.

I have morals, my stbx has the morals of Satan..this is why I turned him in and booted his ass out of my house..

I think this thread is only focusing on the tip of the iceberg though.. The tip that is visable is representative of all the bad.. but the part under the surface, the MAJORITY, are the good hearted people who do have morals & values. We just don't see them in the spotlight because it is the badness the media focuses on. Why? Because it sells. Even to those of us (myself included) who try their very best to be good people & live by their morals.
The only thing we can do as Heave pointed out, is be ourselves. I know it is inside of me to be a good person, not hurt others, not lie, be loyal.. I may make mistakes now & then but I'm human.. I accept that. But I will continue to see the beauty in the people & the world because I know it's there.
I can even see it in SD40.. underneath all the hurt & anger.. it is there...

(((HUG))) to the world. :)

I can only speak of my own experiences. The people I've met here are good people. But after being cheated on in 3 separate relationships and the fourth leaving me for a married man...leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. I often feel like I blew it in my young adulthood. Sticking to my principles while seemingly everyone else was going out and having fun. Sometimes I feel like the "sensitive" guy who women love to have as a friend but would never date...hence the example I gave in my first reply to which I'm searching for an answer.

SD40: Keep the principles. Everything else is empty.

I have to agree with Jaken.. they are a byproduct of self esteem.. & self worth.
Both of my ex's whom I loved very much, cheated on me too.. Was I bitter? Go read some of my journals..lol.. sure was! But I needed that bitterness, hurt & anger to kick me in the ass & look inwards..
I was driving one day to drop our daughter off to him & I was thinking to myself how I had always thought I was so lucky to have been his wife.. Wow! How could a good looking, smart man be interested in me. Then it hit me.. one of my many epiphanies.. HE was LUCKY to have been my husband!! It has to be both ways. I had never considered myself worthy of being with either of my exes so I knew that was where I needed to go & work. And those issues of worthlessness went straight back to my childhood which is often the case.
Now, rather than search for someone to lift me & make me feel whole, I'm working on feeling whole all on my own & waiting for my other half of lucky. .

(((hugs))) to you SD.. you will get there too..

Just because the world does wrong doesn't mean you should. The bad ways are hollow and don't fullfill you. The right path is fulfilling and although it is the though road to take it is the only one that makes you feel as if you are a full person.

Don't let others push you into becoming what you are not! You know your heart and you know the true colors of your soul. Stay true to yourself.

Sad thing about this conversation is that the bad behavior is glamorized in the media...

UGH- I like to think I am a moral gal.. all we can do is strive to make the right choices. Moral road is not the easy one.

So I guess that makes the immoral lazy??